The mushroom white things all over the place are pillboxes
Sa-2 SAM position nearby these tunnels…so they must be important
More satellite photos…the amount of military installations around Tirana and Durres is oustounding…almost everywhere you lok there’s something…usually underground.
Artillery tunnels near Saranda
HUGE tunnel complex near the Kucova AB…there’s dozens of tunnel entrances around that hill…it looks like almost the entire thing is dug out.
Here are some of the tunnels around that hill:
Three tunnels somewhere above the Kucova airfield
AAA storage site next to the airfield…
Some sort of artillery storage site near Elbasan
fuel tanks at that army base
Another huge tunnel complex…this one somewhere between Tirana and Durres
Hey, I didn’t expect to make any sense to you… can you tell me how a magazine published in February 2005 can include flight hours for all of 2005 in it? Seems you’re not making much sense either…
The hours are for the previous year obviously…I said this info was published in 2005. Either way those are the flight hours…reported by the Serbs themselves.
I was replying to someone who stated that the Russian airforce had not adopted any aircraft upgrades. Quite clearly it has… from Su-25SM upgrades, Su-24M2 upgrades with the introduction of the Su-32 at low rate production, Mi-24 and Mi-8 upgrades to give all weather capability and the introduction again at a low rate of the Mi-28N. As far as I am aware they have been delivering Su-27SMs for more than just the last year, though at a low rate too, and they have decided to introduce the Su-35BM to fill the gap between what is currently flying and the PAK-FA when it is ready for low rate production too. Equally the Mig-29s are nearing a requirement for overhaul and as far as I know they are upgrading those aircraft with relatively low hours to SMT standard to add to their air to ground capability at tactical level.
Hmm…lets see…There were 24 Su-27SMs last year and I think 11 this year…thats all for that I think so far…so if this qualifies as “low rate” for an AF the size of Russia…it should take a good 20 years to upgrade all the Su-27s at this rate. Su-24M2s I don’t know how many…but I’m going to guess an equally low number. Su-32 (shouldn’t it be called Su-34 by now…Su-32 died I think) isn’t in low rate production at all…its still undergoing tests I think and its still those 12 or so airframes build since the beggining of the 90s. Mi-28N…well when they have more than 2 prototypes…until then its still not a small-scale production of anything. Su-35BM?? Is that even an existing aircraft yet or another paper plane?
You’r making it sound as if things are actually going on fast in Russia…when in fact they’r going VERY slowly. Heck SMt first flew how many years ago?? And every year we’v heard the same story…this year RuAF is putting SMTs into service…and for several years still nothing. I don’t think there’s any SMT yet build except for that single prototype.
6 million per aircraft…30 million dollars for 5 aircraft?? I don’t think thats worth it…
Considering they already have them and can operate them, yes. Purchasing more would make sense but it is not necessary at the moment.
You have them therefore you should operate them. That doesn’t make much sense. Why waste an large ammount of money on a force thats not going to go anywhere. 4 MiG-29s will get you what?? As I said…is anyone in Serbia SRIOUSLLY considering comparing themselves with their neighbours once more and starting wars?? Becasue if thats the case…4 MiG-29s can’t even compare to Serbia’s neighbours (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Coratia).
So whast the point??
The Two seater upgrade makes it a viable little fighter with an extra set of eyes and work the weapons.
The two-seater has no radar…its not a viable combat aircraft at all.
Even just for the reduction in costs of operating the aircraft it is worth it.
How so?? 30 million dollar upgrade for 5 aircraft…and they’ll make up for that through reduction in flying costs?? I dont think so…
The fact that they are seeking support from Russia is a very positive step. It might even result in Serbia getting some upgrade work from Mig if there are other east european nations that want their migs upgraded but mig is busy with new builds for India and Algeria etc etc.
MiG is busy with newbuilts?? I think MiG-29 production line closed down a long time ago…
and the reasons for Serbia not to buy them are clear.
They don’t want to hand in their war criminals?? Thats not a good reason…thats not a military argument at least. If they decided to get smart about it…they WOULD buy American…or western at lest. But that can’t happen unless some things change in Serbia…
It all comes down to politics here…not much as far as military or technical decision. Serbia doesn’t want to do as its told…so it goes for Russia. A pretty bad deal I think…
Albania probably has the largest ammount of underground tunnels though…used for all sorts of purposes.
Sub pen at Porto Palermo
Another naval tunnel at an unidentified base (I don’t know the name of it nor was aware of its existance..its a bit above Durres) Seems to be able to accomodate only torpedo boats and extremely thick
Underground tunnels for holding tanks…very common throughout the country for tanks, artillery and ammo.
Entrance to one
Tunnel complex for ground vehicles
Another large tunnel complex for housing vehicles
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