F4U would be ZSU-23-4 meat!:(
It was the Do31
Does anyone think that it would be possible to build a twin engined STOL aircraft using two Pegasus engines and ducted thrust or would they end up needing a different lift system if they went for a heavier twin engined platform inspired by the harrier?
They did build an experimental transport in the 60s (?) using 2 pegasus engines. It needed an extra 6 (?) dedicated lift jets………but it worked.
FB-23B:diablo:
They probably would seeing as how they (apparently) havent even considered any other possibility.
Would have been interesting to see a Buc with the A-6s avionics.
Even with CVA-01 we would only be talking about two squadrons of fast jets wouldnt we? I suppose more could be crammed on at the expence of helos.
I apologize. It wasn’t meant as a political statement. I’ve cleaned up my post and I’ll try to stay on topic in the future.
Anyways, it might be interesting to create a “new” F-22. A lot of analysis goes into aircraft design, as we all know. My understanding is that the F-35 uses RAM built into its structure, rather than extensive coatings, making the a/c easier to maintain. Perhaps this idea could be applied to a new F-22 as well?
Structural RAM like that used on the F-35 I think is usually some sort of CFRP absorber with frequency selective surfaces. This would probably change things like composite fibre angles, which would mean having to examine structural and aeroelastic effects in addition to signature and emissions management, which would in turn could mean having to make slight FCS changes. My understanding is also that absorber analysis is usually done after optimizing shaping, which could also mean a less than optimal match between the new absorber and the F-22 shaping.
Avionics could be updated- fortunately they are already doing this with the APG-77- updating it to use newer T/R technology from the APG-81. There is space for the AIRST, perhaps the EODAS from the F-35 could be placed there? Once again, you still have to watch for emissions and signature management issues.
Then the production line for the F-22 would likely have to be restarted, and a supply chain for the new parts would have to be set up. And by the time everything is all said and done, you would have a warmed over 1990’s design, and still have an expensive aircraft. It might have make more sense to do a clean sheet design- something like NGAD perhaps?
Giving the F-22 new “skin” similar to the F-35’s was kinda what I was thinking. I have no idea what the cost would be tho. I wonder if it would make it less maintinence intesive?
I thought the main difference tween the V-22 and F-35B was that one was transport and the other is a supersonic fighter.:D
Could the AV-8B be improved? What would the costs be?
I did not know that Intruders ever operated off the Ark! How did the A-6 stack up to the Buc?
With the PAK/FA and J-20 out there, what are the chances of the F-22 going back into production? Possibly in an improved (F-22B) form?
USS America becomes something of a turkey then.
So the F-35B is on double secret probation? IF it is canceled, what will happen with Marine Air? It doent look like the Marines have any sort of plan for this eventualiy. The America’s whole design is built around operating these jets. So, agai, IF it goes the way of the Dodo, What will the Marines do?
OUTSTANDING pictures!!!!!!!1