In the 50s the OA-10s (in the SAR role) were mostly painted in a light gray-blue, with large bright yellow bands around the rear fuselage, wingtips/floats and across the centre section. The bands were edged in black. White or light grey undersides, IIRC.
The pimples are LEDs or some such that allow the sensors in the cockpit to accurately track the helmet’s exact position
Remember, the F-86 was a by-product or development of the FJ-1 Fury program! The FJ-2 Fury was as you stated a ‘navalized’ F-86 Sabre.
True … but the FJ-2 was essentially different from the FJ-1 in almost every way imaginable. Like several other aircraft it was designated as a variant of an existing design for political reasons – it was thought more likely to gain production funds if it wasn’t considered a completely new aircraft.
FJ-2 Fury _______ Fighter, 2nd aircraft from the company, North AmericanAdrian
The FJ-2 is a bit of an oddity. The designation would imply that it was the second variant of the first fighter from North American, but as the FJ-1 was a straight-winged jet and the FJ-2 was a navalized Sabre with swept wings, the FJ-2 should have been the F2J as it was a very different aircraft.
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Re: Tu-28/128: That explanation makes sense!
What’s the story with the ‘Fiddler’? It’s a fighter with the company designation Tu-128 and service designation Tu-28(?)
The F-22 loses a little in bombing accuracy because it doesn’t have the laser option, but it’s only a matter of a few feet anyway (and very dependent on weather conditions)
Yup, that’s right. The story, as recounted in Ben Rich’s book, is that a Skunk Works mathematician/radar specialist (Denys Overholser) had been studying a scientific paper in which were buried the tools for accurately predicting electromagnetic reflection from a surface. The paper was written in 1966 by Pyotr Ufimtsev, chief at the Moscow Institute of Radio Engineering, and based on much earlier work by Maxwell ( a Scot) and Sommerfeld (German). In 1990 Ufimtsev went to work at UCLA and only then became aware of what a help he had been!
That’s because it was a Russian attempt to copy the D-21 that fell into their hands.
And that’s what I said.
As for the SR-71 if they could duplicate it why didn’t they?
I didn’t say that they could, or that they couldn’t – what I was saying, was that they had the technology to build something “with a similar RCS to the SR-71 and D-21”.
As to why they didn’t, who knows? Maybe they couldn’t afford it, maybe they felt the MiG-25R was sufficient, maybe they found it a lot more cost-effective to get intelligence out of NATO by other means
There was most definitely some theoretical/lab work being performed, as I know someone who was involved. I don’t know what they were doing, or how they were doing it, but it was certainly going on c. late 1980s.
In 1969 (?) they got the wreckage of a D-21 drone which would have revealed a lot about RAM and early RCS reduction shaping/structural techniques – if they didn’t know about it already. I believe they were certainly technologically capable of producing something with similar RCS to the SR-71 and D-21 – there was a lot of work done in the early 1970s on a stealthy air-launched recce UAV called Voron, which looked an awful lot like …. the D-21!
As far as aircraft with F-117/B-2 levels of stealthiness go, I have no idea. I should imagine one of the many stumbling blocks was the fly-by-wire technology, which lagged that in the West by some years. As Lockheed found out in the early days, it’s a very difficult thing to produce a shape with low all-aspect RCS, and quite another very difficult thing to get it to fly!
Don’t forget An-26 – two turboprops plus auxiliary jet in the starboard nacelle.
I know during 1990/91 during the Gulf War it was something that was often mentioned when compared to its strike partner, the Tornado
Not quite sure where you got that from – Buccaneer did not do any low-level ops in GW1 so diffiult to compare the two.
Bucc was certainly a ‘legend’ at low level in its day, but so is Tornado. Beware, there is a lot of inter-type banter between the two so don’t be too swayed by the Bucc-mates’ version!. A mate who flew both would defend the Bucc loudly and vigourously in the bar, but if given the choice of what he would fly to war would choose the Tonks every time.
As a Sea Eagle platform in the anti-ship role the Bucc was quantifiably better, but for low-level overland….mmm…not so sure.
Anyone want to talk about military AIRCRAFT????
they did this genius STVOL plane too, the only one able to reach Mach 2!
Sorry, I’m going to have to stop you there.
The pic is of the Balzac V, which did not go anywhere near Mach 2. The only ‘2’ it was associated with was the number of test pilots it killed.
It was a testbed for the Mirage IIIV which did go mach 2. There were two built, they were hugely heavy, and one crashed. And so the ‘genius’ programme came to an end!!
Mirage G8 (or Mirage IIIG8 to be more correct). Two prototypes built, first was a two-seater, second a siongle-seater (or a two-seater with the aft cockpit filled in).
Interesting! didn’t know that US was operating Global Hawks out of Pakistan. Thanks for the identification.
The UAVs are almost certainly Predators. If you put the measuring tool over them you get a span of just under 50 ft and a length of about 26 ft – the same as the MQ-1. RQ-4 measures 116 ft span and 44 ft in length.