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  • in reply to: More fuel for Boeings WTO argument vs Airbus? #613998
    tenthije
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    It’s rather common biz practise, though perhaps not on such a scale. Earlier GECAS borrowed money to USAirways. You can be sure that GECAS did not do that because they where feeling generous!

    in reply to: New 777 Freighter (Merged) #614190
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    There’s no rationality (in terms of fact) to that unfortunately Peter.
    The 747, 757, 777, MD11 and 727 all were/are/will be, offered as factory new freighters when the PAX varients were still selling, most of them well. Those the the ones that came into my head while writing this. There’s the A310F too, but that was more or less a product after the PAX varient ceased bringing in orders. But those are still factory built freighters, not conversions.

    Yes, those planes where offered new as freighters. And yes, those planes where still selling for pax airlines. BUT, at that time the number of pax planes sold got smaller. This is not something to be embarassed about. A plane has a certain life cycle. It starts to sell, sells more, sells yet more and then levels out at a certain level of annual sales. A few years later it will decline.

    Decline that is, unless new variants are offered. This could be increased ranger (ER/LR etc) or more capacity (100/200/300/400 etc) or “special mission” planes. And that’s where the freighters come in, as well as military applications.

    With the exception of the 747 and the A380 there is not a single NEW planetype that was offered immediately as a freighter. And the only reason the 747 and the A380 where (are) offered as such was because there was (is) nothing quite like it in its size range.

    Another reason for the 747 to be launched as a freighter was because it was a tweaked design of a proposed USAF cargo plane. Add to that the fact that Boeing expected the 747 to fail as a pax airliner. General consensus back then was that supsersonic was the pax way of the future. Only freight was expected to take slow, large planes. The oil crisis quickly put that theory to the history books.

    Now many planes are launched with freight versions in mind. But not launched as such from the get go.

    Also, who’s to say the A330 will be a popular freighter? What do you base this on? (genuine questions folks) Commonality means next to nothing to cargo operators so thats not in contention as a reason. Also, I beleive Boeing have already said the 787 is too PAX orientated to be a valid option for a freighter/tanker version.

    I don’t know if it will be popular. But I still think that 2nd hand planes will be most popular. And if that theory is to prove true than eventually those A330s now flying pax will be converted to freighters. Size and range wise it seems to be a good replacement for the MD-11. The A330 will face stiff competition then from the 777 though, although some operators may find the 777 overkill due to it’s size.

    You’re right that Boeing said the 787 is too optizimed for cargo. I am very curious how and why. It seems a daft decision to make a plane that can be used for one mission only. Personally I would not be surprised if this was said by Boeing to force the USAF into taking 767s. The latter would be preferred for Boeing because it would mean more production slots are available for more lucrative passenger planes.

    Let’s put it this way. Boeing is guaranteed of the USAF contract, I think we can both agree on that (the timing and terms have yet to be determined). Now since they are guaranteed this, Boeing ought to put all their trump cards towards those customers it can loose. The passenger airlines. Therefore Boeing needs all 787 production slots for passenger airlines. The airlines will not go for the 767 anymore, with the exception of a handful airlines that want to expand their current fleet. That number will not be large considering the number of good 2nd hand 767s already available.

    in reply to: New 777 Freighter (Merged) #614212
    tenthije
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    Apparently theres something about the A330s design that does not lend itself well to a freighter conversion. Not 100% what it is or if that is indeed true.

    Most likely because it is still too new. Freighters tend to take old 2nd hand planes. First the DC8 and the 707. When the number of those 2nd hand planes dropped the 300 and DC10 became popular. Followed soon after by the MD11 and increasingly the 767.

    Passengers complain when a plane does not look new(ish). Freight does not. So there are two options. Either a passenger airline does a “Northwest Airways” and updates their planes. Another option is to take a “Singapore Airlines” and replace the planes every five year. Some options in between, but generally speaking passenger airlines don’t like older planes.

    Just wait 5 or 6 years and the A330 will be a popular freight plane as well. Followed 10 year later by the 787 and A350.

    in reply to: New 777 Freighter (Merged) #614274
    tenthije
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    Is this a typo…or am I missing something? :confused:

    This is the most recent list I’ve got (EuroJP 2004). Since this list two planes must have been retired? Otherwise the article would be missing two.

    B747-228F (SCD) … F-BPVR … 21255/295
    B747-228F (SCD) … F-BPVZ … 21787/398
    B747-2B3F (SCD) … F-GBOX … 21835/388
    B747-228B (SF) … F-CGBD … 22428/503
    B747-228B (SF) … F-CGBF … 22794/558
    B747-228F (SCD) … F-CGBG … 22939/569
    B747-228B (SF) … F-CGBH … 23611/656
    B747-228F (SCD) … F-GCBK … 24158/714
    B747-228F (SCD) … F-GCBL … 24735/772
    B747-228F (SCD) … F-GCBM … 24879/822

    in reply to: New 777 Freighter (Merged) #614331
    tenthije
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    The announcement is now official, but the unofficial gossip could be found right here weeks ago.

    in reply to: "This" shot of the day #614553
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    I HATE that photo. If it had not been for that photo my photo would probably have been pic of the week at JP.net!

    in reply to: Picture Of The Evening???? #615332
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    LOL.

    Does not work on Avant Browser but does work on IE. Bit strange.

    in reply to: A notional GLA ramp. #615385
    tenthije
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    Whe have seen stranger scheduling from BMI so everything is possible.

    in reply to: Grrrrrrmanwings #615524
    tenthije
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    That’s awesome! One of the best special liveries I’ve seen in a long time.

    in reply to: Pic of the Year!! #616471
    tenthije
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    Does noone plug from Jetphotos here? :diablo:

    I really like those photos though, even though they are on the wrong site! 🙂

    in reply to: Pic of the day #616713
    tenthije
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    Always wondered. When flying exactly over the magnetic poles, what happens with the compass? Does it start spinning or does it not react?

    in reply to: New Scotairways website!! #616716
    tenthije
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    Ah I see, I’ll let you off this time Peter 😀

    Phew, I can sleep safely now. Good to see that chivalry is not dead.

    in reply to: New Scotairways website!! #616731
    tenthije
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    ooops! Sorry, I am mixing up Scotairways with Air Scotland (757s). 😮

    Air Scotland in the past did announce they wanted to fly to AMS but have gone very quiet since.

    in reply to: New Scotairways website!! #616737
    tenthije
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    When did they start flying to AMS? Have not seem them here yet, nor have I seen pictures of them here. Have I missed something? They are saying tehy want to fly four times daily (once daily in the weekend). That seems a lot of capacity for between AMS and SOU. Especially considering their prices are not really cheap when compared with BMI, easyJet or Ryanair.

    With 4 flights every weekday along with weekend flights nothing could be easier for that well deserved short break. Flight prices start at £124.00 return including taxes and charges and can be booked on-line

    in reply to: 10 pics from AMS, 16/05/05 #617167
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    Ahh just seen on jp.net, you’re using the Sigma 75-300. Sorry I’ve been asking everyone today, because I think I’m finally ready to take the big step and get a DSLR! Looks like the 350D should be coming my way quite soon…

    Do it! It’s worth it if you can spare the money!

    A 350D should be a good camera. Choosing the lense is tricky though. You can do as I did and buy the cheapest on available with as much zoom as possible. You’ll end up with the Sigma 70-300. But when it gets darkish it does not perform well and it does not have stabilization or special features. But it’s a great lense to learn how to use the camera.

    Once my budget gets better I will definately be replacing this lense. The Canon 70-200L is an excellent and somewhat affordable lense. But it would mean I loose 100mm zoom. That’s rather a bit. Another option is to save more and go for a 100-400L. That’s much more expensive though and it would mean that I would also have to get myself a new small lense cause my current one is crap.

    Choices, choices…

    If you don’t mind to buy 2nd hand the 10D should be considered as well. I am not sure of the specs of the 350 but the 10D is much better than the 300D AND has a metal body. So if you accidentally drop it (or bang it on the head of your teacher) it will survive. The plastic body of the 300/350 may not survive a fall.

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