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This plane was at Schiphol today. It arrived yesterday at 11 in the evening and should leave at 10 tonight. If you are nearby and fast, you have 25 minutes. That is, if it is not going to be delayed again. Originally it should have left at 10 in the morning.

Apparently the plane picked up a CNN sattelite vehicle bound for Koeweit. If you are in the area it may be a nice plane to look at. Should arrive tomorrow.

According to the rumour mill this plane will go back to Schiphol in a few days. This has not been confirmed yet, so you may want to wait booking days off. 😀

There were a lot of spotters around. You can therefore expect to find a whole lot more pictures of this bird on airliners.net, planepictures.net and the other sites.

RE: UK Airports ignore ban on noisy jets

“Other European airports, including Salzburg in Austria and Schipol in The Netherlands, have already banned the 737-200 and other similarly noisy aircraft such as the 747-200 and the DC10.”

How do you mean Schiphol banned the DC10 and 742. Northwest continues to fly both types to Schiphol. The 742 is used by KLM and several freight companies (for instance El Al, Cargo Air Lines, Atlas(?) ) and the DC10 is also used by several freight companies (for instance Das Air Cargo). Are all these planes hush-kitted or did these airlines get an exemption from the rule?

RE: Another Task!!!

The Gill F100’s are parked at Woensdrecht in the Southwest of Holland.

RE: Airport pic of the day-10/02/02

Oostende, well, that’s the Dutch name. I do not know the French or English name.

RE: Lets see who guesses this!

It is indeed an TU-154, but it is not Balkan Bulgarian but Slovak Airlines. If I am not mistaken, one of Slovak airlines TU-154’s is hired to Balkan, so it may be operated by Balkan, but not owned.

RE: Fokker

A few of the subsidiaries are stil operating. All companies survived, except for the actual planebuilder and the mother company (more or less the administration, they owned all the subsiduaries including the actual plane builder).

The companies that are still left are:
– Fokker Services, maintenance, overhaul etc;
– Fokker Elmo, electrical wiring I believe, but I am not quite sure;
– Fokker special products, military equipment etc;
– Fokker Space, solar panels, satelites, robot arms, the name says it all. I believe this company has been taken over/will be taken over by SAAB Space.

283 F100 were build in its 9 year history. 38 Fokker 70s were build in its 3 or 4 year history. Of the F28 241 units were build during a period of roughly 25/30 years. You could say the F70/100 were very succesful.

The production of the F27 is as follows:

581 F-27s (Fokker)
128 F-27s (Fairchild)
78 FH-227s
687 total

These sales were spread out over roughly 30 years. The F50/60 sold 205 times in 10 year. They were therefore more or less even with the F27.

All numbers from http://www.airliners.net

RE: Fokker

How everything could be different if the Dutch government had given some more money. They say they did everything they could, which is not true. When you compare how much Boeing, Airbus and other aircraft builders get, the amount Fokker got was a shamble.

Just imagine, projects like the Betuwe freight rail line has already costed roughly 1,100,000,000 Euro. The Betuwe line wil never make a profit. For only a fraction of the cost overrun of this railline we (the Dutch) would have had a highly profitable aircraft builder supporting 100s or maybe even 1,000s of jobs.

All the signals were there at the time indicating that better times were ahead. The Fokker planes sold better than ever. The F60 was just launched. The F130 attracted massive interest from airlines all over the world. The Dollar rate went up. Even the Dutch public opinion finally agreed that is was justified to give Fokker some money (and that had not been the case for a long time).

Of course it is not all the fault of the government. I have read in a newspaper that the DASA kept Fokker long enough to steal everything valuable (ranging from money to technical knowledge) and then left it. Apparently with the last government-loan Fokker could have lived longer, had the Germans not transfered it to themselves.