RE: Gill Airways
According to the Schiphol website Gill airways still has some code sharing flights going. KLM uk/KLM/Gill Airways/Northwest Airlines code share on the Newcastle – Amsterdam flight. Needles to say that the flights are not operated by Gill. They are operated by KLM uk using a F100.
Surprisingly there does not seem to be an flight back to Newcastle. I believe the flight is a daily one,
Arrival at AMS : 12:55
Flightnumbers : UK 2138, KL 2138, NW 5038, 9C 6500
RE: Regional Airliners
Most succesful prop must be the F27/F50. Don’t know how it is outside Holland, but I see a lot more F50’s than I see Dash’s.
The best jet is probably the ARJ.
RE: can anyone help me regarding fleets etc…
Here is the link to the website of Maastricht:
http://www.maa.nl/
I also know Royal Jordanian has a regular B797 cargo flight. The link to the RJCargo site timetable is:
http://www.index.com.jo/rj/freighte.htm
And here is a link to a page with links to most European airports. They are sorted by (Dutch) countryname. If you need a translation, just mail:
http://www.reisindex.nl/menu/vliegvelden.htm
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Maastricht Aachen airport (MST)
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General description
MAASTRICHT – AACHEN AIRPORT
Located 8km north east of Maastricht city on the eastern side of the A2 highway.
IATA code: MST.
ICAO code: EHBK.
Runways: 04/22 2489m x 45m.
07/25 1080m x 45m.
Frequencies: TWR 119,475
362,300
APP 123,975
371,675
DIR 120,200
GND 121,825
ATIS 124,575
Maastricht Airport can certainly be a sleepy place. However, over the years it has attracted visiting aircraft to match the best anywhere else in the world. Should you be in the area by all means drop by, but don’t go out of your way to spend a day at the airport, unless you’re also into bird watching: plenty of sparrowhawks and herons to be seen!
Air Exel Commuter is the resident airline, operating five times each weekday to Amsterdam for KLM and code sharing with Air UK to London/Stansted twice a day with two Brasilias, PH-XLA and XLB. At the time of writing the airline is expecting to add three ATR 42s to the fleet in order to operate new services from Eindhoven. BASE operates twice each weekday to London/Gatwick. Air Alfa operates a kind of scheduled charter service each friday to Ankara and Istanbul throughout the year but can be seen on a much more regular basis during the summer months. Both Air Holland and Transavia are operating to the Canary Islands during the winter but again, their presence is far more frequent during the summer. Britannia Airways began a fortnightly charter service to Australia during the winter of 1995/96. This has been expanded to a weekly service for 96/97, operating to Australia one week and to New Zealand the next. The Boeing 767 departs on tuesday and returns on friday.= Additional charters planned for the summer of 97 include Viva each tuesday to Barcelona and Spanair to Palma on wednesdays. Updates will appear here when the summer program firms up.
Although the airport management would like the airport to be on the map because of its passenger throughput it is in the cargo that the airport excels. The regular operators are Royal Jordanian, up to three times a day with 707s, Turkish Airlines, up to three times a day with 727s, and Iberia DC8s six times a week. Tayfunair 727s are quite frequent visitors and Argentina operates a weekly (sunday) flight from Buenos Aires using Connie Kalitta 747s, normally N708CK. Any other airline that earns its bucks carrying cargo is a potential visitor.
The days of the Ilyushin 76 are gone, at least for the time being. The airport has a number of local, and vocal, opposition groups. You know the kind, they buy a house right beside the airport and then bitch about the aircraft, as if the airport just sprung up overnight! Of course airplanes are just fine when they need their vacations in Mallorca, along with rest of the great unwashed. One group called itself Angry Mothers Against Nice Russian Aircraft, or something similar. They managed to force the 76s out of Rotterdam, which subsequently moved to Maastricht. Another chapter of ferocious mothers thus took over the fight and made its presence felt. With or without them, noise was certainly an influencing factor and in the end the 76s virtually blew themselves out. They all moved to Ostend when a ban was imposed. It was hoped that their place might be taken by quieter turbo prop types, but it has to be said that the visiting Antonov 12s and 26s are few and far between.
There are numerous light aircraft based at the airport, some of which are relatively unusual in Europe; a Beech Duke and a Ted Smith/Piper Aerostar spring instantly to mind. A piper Malibu shares the GA ramp with a couple of Citations.
The National Flying School (NLS) is based at the airport with its fleet of= Piper Warriors, Arrows and Senecas. The aircraft disperse during the day but normally return to the nest late afternoon. The school is accessed via Europalaan, passing through the approach lights to runway 22. Adjacent to the NLS is the hangar of the related Schreiner Aircraft Maintenance. Schreiner performs maintenance on Friendships and Dash 8s, among others, and thus plays host to some quite exotic airframes on occasions. The Dash 8s leased by Schreiner to Sabena sometimes return home at weekends for training or maintenance. Just down the ramp from SAM is the GPA/Expressair paint shop. This hangar can accommodate just one large aircraft at a time but numerous delights have passed through its doors over the years: Airbus A300s and 310s, Il86s, Il62s, Tu204s, 737s, MD80s to name but a few. You= just never know what is going to be present during your visit.
The airport offers many photographic possibilities. These have to be carefully selected, dependent upon the time of day, and year. The best spots are located adjacent to the thresholds of runways 22 and 04 but it does mean that a wire fence is going to seperate you from the aircraft. Therefore, it might be very useful if you usually keep a three step ladder in the trunk of your car! This could also be of use around the north east cargo ramp. The airport authority is really not one of the world’s most helpful, and thus your chances of winning the lottery are probably far greater than gaining ramp access for photography! But if you’re a real smooth talker – who knows!
In 1996 the Dutch Government approved the laying of a new 3500m east/west runway. Exactly what kind of traffic this new runway will encourage is difficult to forecast but it can be guaranteed that it will permit direct long haul flights. Watch this space – at least after the year 2002!
Here are a few points that cannot be over emphasised.
1. If you have a step ladder – use it. Don’t even dream of
making holes in thefence.
2. Take your garbage home with you.
3. Parts of the airport are close to residential areas.
Imagine your mum lives there, and treat them with respect.
4. Some of the best viewing spots are right beside public
roads. BE CAREFUL!
5. A number of us do our logging and photographing at the
airport. PLEASE DO NOT destroy things for us.
April 1997.
Paul J. Hooper.
pauljay@cuci.nl
RE: Fokker 100
The F70 and F100 are my absolute favourite too. Perhaps its just nationalism speaking (yes, I am Dutch) but the Fokker plant should have never gone bust. Had DASA and the Dutch government supported Fokker for a little while longer, than Fokker would probably have been the main-player in the current RJ-frenzy.
Fortunately Fokker spotting ain’t all that hard in Holland. At Schiphol you can easily see F100 of KLM uk. Seeing other F70/F100 (BM, KLM Cityhopper) is also quite possible. And then there is Woensdrecht. The storage/maintenance fascility of old Fokkers. Mostly F28, but sometimes also F50/70/100. Recently I have even seen a Pelita F70 at Rotterdam Zestienhoven! It was on its way to Woensdrecht.
I have a question one of you might be able to answer. At the time Fokker was studying an enlarged version of the F100. The project, known as F130, was scrapped by DASA because they were busy developing their own 130-seater (the Fax). Does anyone know what happened with this plane? And does anyone have any pictures (artist impressions) of this plane?
Greetings
Peter ten Thije
Petertenthije@yahoo.com
RE: New/restyled a/c c/s in the planning?
Air Holland has said for quite some while now they want to introduce a new cs on their aircraft. They don’t seem to be in a hurry though. They have already passed 2 deadlines.
RE: Amsterdam Schipol
I’m affraid it isn’t possible to rent a bike at Schiphol. Quite a shame if you ask me, it is indeed the best form of transport at Schiphol. You can take the bus though (or rent a car of course).
If you want to go too the MacDonalds site, their are several busses taking you there. The busses are 190, 191, 192, 195, 198. If you want to go too Schiphol East you can take the same busses, except for 192. MacDonalds lies along the route to Schiphol East, so you can do both along the route. (as you may have seen there is a map of busroutes on http://members.tripod.de/schiphol/ under the link “AMS spotting” -> “How to get there”.
If you go too Schiphol East, chances are you can see the planes of the DDA (Dutch Dakota Association). Usually their DC-4 is parked outside, near the fence. Grap your chance of photographing it, because the plane will be sold, and god knows where it then will end up. Maybe in the backgarden of your neighbour, or just maybe on the other side of the world.
Too go to the Luchtvaart Hobby Shop you can take busline 199. Ask the busdriver to set you off at “Aalsmeerderbrug”. Walk back over the bridge, and then cross the street. You will find a small (and rather steep) stair leading down. Take that stair, and walk strait on. After 20 or 30 metres it is on your right.
Just another advise with regard to taking the bus. It is best too buy a “Strippenkaart” at Schiphol. You can buy these at book-shops, the NS (Dutch Railways, both at the counter and the ticket-vending machines (code 2222 I believe)) and at the “Connexion”-counter (bus company). If you buy one of 15-strippen it will cost you about 15 gulden, it should be more than enough for one or two days. On the bus you can only buy a “Strippenkaart” containing two strippen. It will cost you 3 gulden. Do the math, and you’ll see it is way more expensive.
Each “Strip” symbolises a zone, and you pay one “strip” for each zone you go through, plus one extra (a boarding “strip” so to say). Going to Schiphol East is 3 strips, so is the MacDonalds. The Luchtvaart Hobby Shop is roughly 4 or 5 strips, I am not entirely sure.
Greetz
Peter ten Thije
Petertenthije@yahoo.com
RE: Amsterdam Schipol
There are a number of sites about spotting at Schiphol. Some of the best are:
http://www.schipholview.nl/
http://members.tripod.de/schiphol/
Schiphol itself has two internetsites. An old “secret” site, and a new site. The old site is prefered by spotters, because it also shows the cargo planes that arrive/depart. The new site doesn’t show the cargos.
The new site is:
http://www.schiphol.nl
The old site is:
http://flightinfo.schiphol.nl/engine/indexfilm01klein.html?url=/home/vl…
If you have anymore questions I’m more than willing to (try) to answer them. Have fun!
Greetz
Peter ten Thije
Petertenthije@yahoo.com