Blimey, been a good few years since I read that!!!
JC
This idea surfaces here from time to time.
I suggest you re-read the book.
Not a great deal happens. All the interest is in being inside the heads of the characters and Deighton’s superb writing style.
I’d rather the movie moguls left that one alone.
Moggy
Good point, but the fact it shows both sides of the story gives the basic framework for a quite balanced view, and as with most books the depth is normally left out of the screenplay (witness Piece of Cake and the mostly pathetic attempts at turning Tom Clancy and Stephen King novels into films). If handled well the film could stand as a work in it’s own right so long as it doesn’t pretend to be a faithful adaptation of the novel.
The most we can ever hope for in a film is an accurate and sympathetic portrayal of people and events, with some nice footage of aircraft. Pearl Harbo(u)r was some nice flying spoilt by a story wasn’t it?
JC
Isn’t wine brilliant!!
So what would it take to make a film about Bomber Command? Len Deighton’s novel could form the basis for a screenplay.
There are enough Lancs for ground shots, 2 airworthy ones and CGI for the flying sequences…
Well?? We’ve got movers and shakers lurking in this Forum, so move and shake Ladies and Gentlemen!
JC
Not volunteering
Papa Lima, how about:
Unknown airfield with Cessna 150 circling, please state location.
That one always makes me grin 🙂
JC
wassat then?
JC
Sorry Kev – I’m afraid I’m going have to agree with you 🙂
JC
Mellow…..
Actually any criticism becomes void if the Nation [1] concerned has little interest in preservation (dynamic or static). One would have little basis for complaint if an individual or organisation from another country were to take on the preservation of a foreign marque due to a lack of interest from it’s place of birth.
JC
[1] By “Nation” I mean the collective group of Government, Private Enterprise and individuals. Would I be far off if I were to think that as a Nation, the UK had very little interest in the preservation of it’s aviation history up until 35 years ago? Or was the immediate post war period just too close to the event and everyone would rather put it all behind them? Was the National Interest more into stopping the USSR from bombing us back to the Stoneage rather than saving 15 year old obsolete airframes from being melted down and turned into Valiants and Hunters? Who then would have thought that we would be remembering a vanished British Aviation Industry in 40 years time… Just a few more thoughts!
Ok, as is my want I’ve sat back and watched from a safe distance.
My view? A “heritage” is only borne from a huge amount of external influence, so in order to appreciate a particular “heritage” surely one should acknowledge that which has driven it?
So in the case of the UK preservation scene there is plenty of room for foreign input – whether it be 8th Air Force, Luftwaffe, SAC or whatever the Soviet Air was known as.
Our home grown aircraft always formed part of a global picture – surely thier adversaries and allies deserve a place alongside them?
The same argument applies to the preservation scene in the US, Australia, Mainland Europe – wherever enthusiasts want to appreciate aviation.
There is never anything to be gained from tunnel vision – you will miss a lot of interesting scenery 🙂
What is being proposed (the focus on the home industry) runs the risk of people having only one view of histrory without being encouraged to seek alternative views.
JC
Come back CrazyMainer – I appreciated you!
Good work Philip – Hot Topic? Fireproof Y fronts required in my opinion… 😀
JC
From my point of view, if you’ve got the resources to own and operate an aircraft like this (whatever continent you’re on) surely the small amount extra effort to make it authentic has got to be worth it. If a job is worth doing, it’s worth doing well.
The errors here give an impression of someone who (for the sake of argument) has a Spitfire because someone told them it was cool and they could afford it, without an appreciation of what it actually represents. This may be harsh and entirely untrue of the supposed individual, but as I said that’s the impression it gives.
Alternatively if said owner wants the machine red with green spots that’s his/her choice, but an authentic scheme (if chosen) should be correct out of respect for the aircrew that the machine represents (and careless errors could be be seen as disrespectful in some quarters).
I’d be as critical of a UK based US warbird showing the same inaccuracies!
JC
The Comet was a bit special – no idea what the dimensions are but it’s BIG! It’s not far off the “Supermodels” Globemaster from what I could tell while they were sat on the tarmac.
I couldn’t get my camera sorted in time to catch the wet start – it was quite spectacular!
How would one get involved a little closer with these machines? I like watching, but I prefer getting my hands dirty and learning..
JC
60’s and early 70’s for me – Hunters, Lightnings, Buccaneers, Phantoms, Victors and Vulcans.
JC
Looks like I’m into Cold War jets then!
Having grown up 5 miles from Coltishall, it would have to be the BBMF (or whatever they were called in the late 60’s). I do recall going to an air show at Coltishall when very young and remember watching Spitfires being hurled around the sky with vigour while sitting on my father’s shoulders!
Do Lightnings count? They were operational but didn’t half make an impression on a 4 year old 🙂
JC
Having seen Lightnings do a fast pass and climb at airshows, 90 secs to 35000 feet is a pretty good way of putting it.
I have this memory of a Lightning coming in low and fast along the crowd line, standing on it’s tail and just going straight up between some clouds until it was out of sight. It had quite an effect on a 12(ish) year old 🙂 Would have been at Mildenhall or
Coltishall mid to late seventies.
JC
I guess the best way to measure it is from the creation of the serial number/job card to first test flight – With something as complex as an aircraft the manufacturer would have to create it on paper first (ie which engine, what armament, theatre specialities, latest mods etc). When this specification is passed on to the production people the aircraft is born, and gains identity. It’s the same with cars – the chassis number forces the creation of the body and creates the orders for the parts to match the request.
That’s my theory – now has anyone got the data that says Serial 123456 was started on 33rd of octember 1943 and was test flown on whenever?
JC