edisononeWell there are quite a lot of possibilities to be almost identical to human kind provided that the gravity in their home planet would be similar to the earth’s one.
Scientists have thought about that and although he didn’t speak specifically about aliens, Galileo studied this aspect first. Actually he studied what we call today “scaling”. For example “King Kong” can not exist in earth at least not with the capabilities his smaller relatives have.
Galileo studied scaling when he tried to explain where a place like “Dante’s inferno” could be and if it could ever exist!
Today tools like “Buckingham’s law” and other help scientists to predict the behaviour of objects they never saw.
Also have anyone thought that those people that make “documentaries” simply cannot understand a simple thing of NASA scientists’ work about how to reach the moon?
It would have been unthinkable even a couple of decade back for
earthlings to even consider the possibilities that there’re these lakes, rivers, mudslides,
Katrina force windstorms and more, which mirrors almost that of the earth and which is so similar
and so close to home in one of Jupitors many moons. Therefore…
Why is it so unrealistic that the next thing that science will discover,
and prove, might not be the possibility of life forms, i.e., a Nessie of kind, in the toxic
and inhospitable lakes, rivers, and atmosphere of this moon of Jupitor?
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edisononeActually, JASDF canine members at Iruma AB.
Please… Don! That indeed is not very nice of you!!! I mean if a son of
the dragon Mr. FuManchu, you should’ve pick up the better side of him and be civil to
people rather than to play the :p villainous part :p of him that the creator of Mr. FuManChu had
intended of him… I’m disapointed in you Mr. Chan! Deeply disapointed!!!
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edisonone.
To have carriers or not to have carriers by 2008:
They already have things that need escorting – their transports (in reference to a possible attack on Taiwan). I’m sure they’re keeping their options open in as far as they need escorts to be in the position to have carriers at all. But I would be surprised if they had a fully combat-operational carrier of any real capability by 2008. A trainer, yes. But not the former.
First and foremost:
Why do you insist that Beijing would attack the Island of Taiwan?
I mean if you are one of the Islanders, yes, indeed I can understand your
state of mind. But, if you are maybe one of the thousands who had been sold from top to bottom
by Washington’s sales pitches (politics) that Beijing is doing all of this with
the intention of Taiwan in mind — then, how can people be so cruel???
Anyway, here’s what I have to say about all
of this China phobia; or, alternatively, to all of this China mongering;
or whatever it is that you’d prefer to call it:
“Worry not all you grim faces out there, because, the chance probability
of China walking into the Island militariry is practically none existent – Zilch! – Zero! Nit! Reason:
the family tie is much too great for them to morally follow through with it!”
Unless, of course, authorities in the Island is adamant about its
intent, or its insistance, on the rewritting of Chinese history as a whole,
I doubt Beijing would go the last resort. So! Why sweat over it?
Additionally, if all hell does break loose in the straight; those missiles in the Chinese
coast will, IMO, not be directed at their own compatriotes. Reason: the true objects of those
missiles, my opinion, are there to defend the country from an attack from without.
2008:
Well… there are chatters that one will be ready by then to to help
cut the opening ceremony ribbons of the summer games in Being. IMHO,
carriers are more an image thing rather than a muscles thing for Beijing. Therefore, I
wouldn’t at all be surprised if indeed they’ll have one running by then.
A carrier, to Beijing, would IMHO, be the same as
that of a Mercede Benz to the CEO of a major corportion
and Mercedes Beijing definitely afford these days.
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edisononeWhat would make the very large and uneconomical Varyag a suitable “training vessel?” Will the Varyag actually be capable of actually getting under way? Will she have a limited capability propulsion plant, or will she be permanently moored for deck training exercises?
More to the point, why the would the Chinese repeat the dated Varyag design? Why construct a steam turbine powered STOBAR carrier?
The Chinese could easily construct a far cheaper, more quickly built STOBAR carrier from a commercial hull. After all, we live in an era of nearly 100,000 tonne container ships capable of sustained speeds of 25 knots!
Time will tell! Time will tell!!!
edisononethey would not be building all these escort ships if there was nothing for them to escort
This much I can say, Mr. Chakos: You have a keen and analytical
sense for reasoning. Indeed, I had always said that those top of the
line destroyer (168/169/170/171 and more) weren’t built just for the luxuries of
sporting it. Truthfully, little by a little, we can envision a modern,
a formmidable, and a no frills battle group being put together…
The final phase of this built up, “the icings on the cake so to speak”, or
“the heart of this/these battle groups” or — the PLAN’s means of projecting its air coverage
capabilities further out to sea — I suspect is discreetly being put together…
Another simple but very logical reason: If even your country
manages to sport a carrier, then, it would be hard pressed for the Chinese to
bypass the challenge that carriers offers as an image builder…
I mean China after all is a huge country and carriers should be natural part of its inventory…
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/history4/62/20060111/13021330.html
Or… can we say that the realizations of a long awaited Chinese dream is finally happening…
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edisonone.
Japanese complaint about Chinese intelligence:
http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20060221-00000000-san-pol
More Japanese complaint about Chinese intelligence aircraft and ships intruding Japanese ADIZ and EEZ. {yawn}
When the Japanese speak, we must understand that what we are
in fact hearing is its master talking. I mean realistically, how many of you
really believe that Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan have any actual say in any matter?
My suspicions: The one that is really speaking — its registered owner.
Example: If its registered owner
says “No!” to the shrine, then I bet there’s no way
Japan will dare visits that shrine.
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edisononeit’s not hard to believe that, especially since the Chinese have stated that they will have obne carrier by 2008 and a fleet of carriers by 2010, though for security they’d be making them in seperate locations, makes sence to me
I was on visit to China last October and one of my primary objective
was to get a glimps of the Shanghai, Dalian, and Wuhan shipyards. I tried
to bribe my local guide to sneak me into those facilities for a first hand look of
those places. My guide refused to do so no matter the amount of the bride
saying they can get thrown into the slammer for it if they are caught.
However, they were adamant (based on insider rumors) and thus are
positive that China have the technical knowhows and the resources to do CVs on their
own but, are keeping a tight lip about whether or not there is such projects because of the fuzz
people in the world (regional – particularly the US) are making about it.
My bribe extended to “a sneak preview offer” of
the “Nanjing region airbase”. But, my guide says it’s shoot on sight if
trespassing and asked us to go there on our own.
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edisononeCool… And, this one flies too if you do!
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060220/13107348.html
edisonone.
Facts, or Fiction:
I’d run out of testing vials
from the urine drug tests we’d have
to run on this thread.
Here’s what I have to
say to all those nay sayers, yellow, red,
white, brown or green :p :
Why is this subject so sensitively controversials is beyond me? I mean what’s
so hard or why is the truth so bitter for some of us to swallow? Golly! Does people
need for Niel Armstrong & gang to bring back with them a few dozen green mens before they’ll
admit that the Americans had indeed beaten everyone to the finishing line???
I mean like the pioneering days of the old west, we
must admit the truth and we must accept the fact “that America’s
manned lunar programme had indeed proven its worth”.
“Why try and reject it? Why not view America’s sucesses as a learning
experience, as a stepping stone of sort, as encouragement, and, as a shortcut of kind
for the rest of the world to follow and to take up the same challange???”
I mean if by the “mentalities of the nationalisms (or denials) that
drives us” that it would be more comforting for us to reject the truth that we had
indeed been left behind “the pride-stimulation game” instead of standing up and picking up
the pieces from where we had been left off, then, we will never come to terms with
the realities of the followings which is yet to be a challenge to us…
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Lunar_Reconnaissance_Orbiter_Passes_Preliminary_Design_Review.html
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_Might_Be_Planning_Early_Space_Station_Attempt.html
So! If denials is your logic, then the above tales, too, will be
no more but yet another conspiracy theory of kind of the mighty and of
the powerfull. And if so, then you better embrace yourselves now because
“time waits for no one” and “progress never stands still“.
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edisonone.
The chatters in the net is that the Su-33 along with a navalized
version of the J-10 is going to be it. Moreover, rumors are circulating in
the net that the former Varyag is indeed going to be a training vessel and that 3 indiginous
copies (Varyag class) are in the makes somewhere in China.
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edisononeedisonone
edisononeI don’t get your point…It seems I am a bit slow for you’but I can’t tell what your argument is…I just looked at the Picture and wrote what I saw…What’s your problem?
And i ain’t no Warlord either…I’m Greek! :rolleyes:
Sorry fazer01. I guess what it is is that you missed the part where
I said to “ignor it it does not apply to you”. The bottom part wasn’t meant for you. It was
meant for some one mean machine who surfs AFM as well as CMF.
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edisononeAnd I am sure you
know those stealth planes and Something
called Aurora?
Either way (military projects or otherwise), how do you explain
away the USSR’s/Russia’s profound interest in the subject of UFOs;
of India’s interest in it; and, of the highly classified but officially acknowledge
agencies the Chinese have created especifically to study it?
Indeed, we are entitled to our suspicions about the authenticities
of UFOs. But, given the almost out of this world technology we see in the
world today, it would however be foolish of us to outright write off the possibilities of
its existence – regardless if they’re military projects or if otherwise.
And, unless the Russians, Chinese, as well as the Indians have their own
Area 51s they can fiddle with, which I seriously doubt, then, there’s just no justifications
whatsoever for the Russians, Indians, Chinese to get as deeply involved.
Therefore, if UFOs are indeed is cooked up, then, I for one will be
the first to tip my hat to the Americans for doing such a fine job of selling it such that governments
and scientific communities the world over had been so sold by it.
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edisononeBut I an anxiously wait for the day when someone for one of those esteemed
“expert websites” on Chinese defence matters on the net get to official goto an Chinese airbase/
naval dockyard/day at sea and take some good NON-grainy non telephoto
You’ve got to be kiddin’! Clearer picture? I mean
would they let anyone anywhere near secretive Groom Lake or
Nellies AFB, NV, unless they wanted you to do so?
On airbase/naval dockyard: Maybe our grainery expert, Mr. SOC, might
be able to decipher this supposedly US Inteligence footage. It was attached to
this guy Fisher’s charges the Chinese were keeping secrets from the US.
I mean how silly can one be for making such unrealistic charges.
Honestly, I can’t make out anything from that pic, can you, OC? Hah! underwater tunnels!
I mean that’s like saying that Nessie and the Ogopogo exists :p…
What will this fisher guy cook
up next I wonder… I guess that’s what you get
for being “easy pickin’s” isn’t it?
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