How come we are so sure that Musharraf is Sitting in J10..in other picture he is sitting in Simulator(I donot see canopy)..i belive first picture is of JF-17 4th Prototype.
Regards
Logic:
The J-10 is a prize Chinese possession. Therefore, even if it was
George W. Bush who is doing the visiting and he makes a request to view
and inspect this 4th wonder of the Chinese world, even if just for the fun of it,
wouldn’t it be mighty rude of them to not comply with his wishs?
“Customarily, the Chinese shows off only the best, the sharpest, and
the coolest that they have to guests and foreign dignitaries, hence this will be no exception to
this fact. Therefore I suspect this’s even one of the 4th prototypes.”
I mean why would they, or why should they, even have a need to mislead
the public about their pride and joy? Truthfully, if it was the Avro Arrow, I’d be more than
pleased to show it off to the world. Wouldn’t all of you Canucks out there?
Besides, this visitor that they are hosting is a friend, a close ally, and a partner
in the business of serious science and technology and the Chinese animal instinct is that it have
this tendancy of going out of their way to pamper people they do business with…
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Damn…
Some of you guys beat me to that one I guess.
http://tuku.military.china.com/military/html/2006-02-24/26542.htm
But, here’s a repost just for the fun of it. Anyhow,
doesn’t he even shave himself on high profiled State visits? Sure
looks beat up from the trip from this vantage point.
Also, they sure as the heck are trying to pump that thing.
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/bbs/11018441/20060224/13120693.html
This billboard is probably in Shanghai (huge international
exposure) and when they advertise like that, you can bet that it’s not for
domestic consumption but intended as a revenue generator.
Damn Chinese Capitalists :p!
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Right, that’s about enough from you. If you have something to say, man up and come out and say it. Enough of this double talk and newspeak.
My thread still being where it is… is undenyably an indication that
the toleranace level here have increased and that is indeed a good sign for AFM… However, to
clear the air, an apology has been issued in another thread for you.
Your response to the thread Chinese and Indian Su-Accidents
Bear in mind, OC, that I for one have every respect for you. Honest!
And I swear on that. Therefore, excuses please if misunderstandings have been had here.
However, this I can not say for each and every forumite on this board. To avoid making the
situation worst than is, I had to avoid pointing fingers – specifically.
However, what this Gentleman said here previous which is that there is no Chinese
mods here to cheer them on does apply and it does make sense. I mean why should they
not have a voice and why should they not live free from bias and bigotry? Or worst…
Their replies selectively discriminated against or deleted even…
Once again: I have every respect for you and I mean it.
That message was intended for some other forumite — a forumite who clearly
had shown a bias against other members of this board…
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We went to the Moon to beat the Soviets there. Its damned expensive to go to the Moon, and we had achieved our objective.
No. There is no atmosphere on the Moon. Its a lifeless little ball of rock and it always has been.
What I mean to say, or have suspicions about, is whether or not
America might have lost some of their peoples up there on later excursions.
Something of the Columbus magnitute would’ve hault the progrmme.
I doubt money is the root to all evils here.
Because we listen when China says that they will use force to prevent Taiwan’s independence, even is doing so is the democratic choice of the people of Taiwan in a referendum?
Because we watch when China passes legislation enshrining their right to attack Taiwan if they are not happy with the direction that Taiwan’s government takes on the question of seeking true independance in both fact and name?
Because we remember China’s previous excursions into their neighbors territory (Tibet, Russia, Vietnam and the Spratleys)?
Just a few reasons.
Unicorn
Damn… Why must they insist in the first place???
Logic: It’s quite a natural response my opinion. I mean as
humanoids, mankind just can’t afford to let the black sheeps of the
family pilfer, deplete, or destroy the family’s assets or its resources. No one
can! Not even democratically true societies in the west. So…
“Why make the Chinese an exception to this fact?”
I mean – BE REASONABLE!!!!
Facts: Try split Ireland from the UK and see how Mr. Blair will respond to
that. Or, maybe, try and split one of the main Islands from Japan and see what the
results would be… Or, alternatively still – try and break the province of Punjab away from
New Dehli and see what will be flying in the skies of that Himalayas province or Quebec
from Canada and see the craps that Canucks as myself will be facing…
Or, try and see what happens if for examples that Latino America
insists that they deserves to be freed from their long lost independence
from America; which in fact is what they had been insisting on recent demonstrations
against the recent backlashs mainstream America have against them???
So please!!! Chinese are humans too — just like you and me!
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Carriers to show off during the olympics? Sounds contradictory. A peaceful sports event vs one of the most powerful weapons platform man has ever created. 😮
Some may view it as a powerfull weapon. But, to many a state,
it’s the pride and the prestiges of it that count. In that sense, it serves as
a statement of kind to indicate that the technology can be had by all nations of
the world that have a no frills shipbuilding facility and knowhows.
Carriers are “none peacefull only because we harbors bias on the country
or countries that sports them“. On the other hand however, it’s a master piece
of science, technology, and an engineering feat for all those who have the capabilities of
mustering such a technically complicated platforms and doing it on their own.
Look at the Seventh Fleet for examples: No one trully view
it as a powerfull weapons system. Instead, people the world over generally looks
at it in amazement as an awesome feat of human enginuity.
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Isn’t Bangladesh now a satellite,
a protectorate, or an entity or kind within Dehli’s
political sphere of influence?
according to taiwan news paper china has lost atleast 5 su-27/30 and one is said to have crashed into mountains due bad wheather ,cannot confirm it has no news crosses the great wall of china
The manner for which the Chinese see their Su’s (almost as if prized
possessions) by protecting their goods from the environment with burlaps when not in use, most
likely won’t get them into trouble like that which Taiwan has drummed up.
But invariably, some lose will occur I suppose. I mean even the latest
and the best of west gets into trouble sometimes. So what’s the big deal and why
“specifically the Sino-Indian comparison” to light this uneasy Asian fire?
I hope the original of thread has not originated from the Pacific side of the globe.
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one is fact and the other side is pure fiction:
Or one is fact and the other side is pure fiction that they seem to apply liberally for others too.
What I find as most :p fictitious :p , an amazment almost, is how it is that the
luxuries of the powers which is entrusted in us enables us to dictate who does or does not have the right
or the equal opportunities to voice their opinions, regardless if ficticious or factual.
I mean have you ever watched :p Judge Judy :p ? Man!!! She’d throw
the book at you simply because she have the powers entrusted in her to do so and not
if the fair plays of it dictates that that’s the judgement she should make…
“Quality leadership does not a Judge Judy make! Quality leaderships evolves
around the principles of fairness, of equal opportunity, and, of the rights of each and every
individual to present their views, their opinions, and their sides of the story.”
Finally, for what I have said, can I be expected to take a leave of absence
from AFM for being bold and for being up front about myself for a few weeks, maybe more? In a dictatorial
environment, who knows what’s in the distance and what’s in the horizon!!!
I do hope this post gets to stay and to serves as reference and as a
means of opening up our understandings to the bigotry and the ineqaulities we see here
in the hopes that changes can eventually be had. But, given the norms of the things that goes on
around here, I’d agree that that would be wishfull thinking on my part.
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Mission control-Hollywood!!!
Hollywood??? Well…
They didn’t much like Marilyn Monroe then because she was almost
running the whole of Hollywood at the time and the CIA just couldn’t have that.
Therefore they hired this guy who was extremely good in special affects at the time and decided
to do it in secrecy in the UK instead — or so goes the tales anyhow.
Regardless, one part of the documentary which I feel does have a giant
question mark attached is where it claimed that whoever was involved in the shooting sequences
eventually and mysteriously met their ends way way before their times.
But, Niel is for real alright. And, we earthlings just have to give America
its due on that one. There’s just no denying that America is the leader of the pack.
But, one thing I just couldn’t get out of my system is this: Why did she stop almost abruptly
and almost instaniously when it’s finally becoming a routine for her???
Suspicions: Could future paleontologists to the moon surprise us
all with finds of the existence of prehistoric life forms on the lunar surface
known as homo sapiens??? I mean others than for this reason, I find it hard to understand why
the programme stopped and never to revive itself again until now.
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Man!!! Can’t stand it when stories are one-sided…
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Satellite images:
Question: How can one tell if whether or not
what we see is not just merely toys and decoys or if what
we see is trully that strategically sensitive???
I’ve seen enough pics of those decoys that they make and, from high
above, they’d look real enough my opinion. Besides, will countries really make it this
obvious that it’s almost as if they are advertising the wares they have?
Just curious! But, I do have my suspicions about the simplicities of it all.
My thoughts: None sensitive items, yes, they are probably
quite open about it and likely want for others to Nikon it. But classified
and sensitive materials? I doubt if it’s that easy to detect.
I mean those things are sitting ducks if it was this easy…
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Can we rule out the possibility that the J-10-4 might also be offered
for export in the open market? After all, business is business. And, based on
suspicions in the net of something which sounds something similar to that of the J10-stealth,
I wouldn’t at all be surprised the J-10AB&C may also be offer for sale.
The price tag for a J-10, however, might be a bit
on the steep side. I doubt if Musharraf is prepared to invest
in something that is as extravagant — price wise.
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Well… If you can’t beat them, then why not join them :)!
Just a very short guide to some allien made UFOs.
From the xilu.com site:
http://bbs13.xilu.com/cgi-bin/bbs/view?forum=zgyb&message=148829
Who or what inspired the disc shape design I wonder. I know that the
Germans are into flying wings and other odd shapes and configurations WWII days and
the rest of the world followed suite a few generations later, but who or what fired up the disc
shape rage? I wonder if Jimmy Carter had anything to do with it :p ???
Niel Armstrong better be for real because another player
to the space faring game has just been inducted into The Hall of
Claims therfore those footprint better be there or — could the both of them be
in a conspiracy together to mislead the greater public???
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-moon12feb12,0,7273680.story?coll=la-headlines-nation
(Source: packman of CMF)
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