This is the second defence deal that is going to become a fiasco in Canada. First we had the issue with Sea King helicopters replacements and now this.
Does anyone know how much we paid for these subs? I hope the savings were substantial compared to purchasing new subs from France such as Agosta’s.
With equipments like that,
one thing I’m certain: I know that my tax
dollars are not wisely spent…
What we should have got was some Ohio or
LA Class and the nukes that goes with it. I mean look at our CF-18s…
it’s definitely no puny Harrier that’s for sure.
Those weirdly shaped lights are nothing. They could be ANY light source, a plane, star, etc. the definitave shape caused by the iris of the video camera focusing in on a far away object has been the cause for many a UFO sighting.
Zoom in on any light that is far and tiny,and you will eventually see the light cut off by the iris of the camera–usually diamond shaped.
Many people have commented, “Oh my god, it’s CHANGING SHAPE!!!!” when video taping far away UFO’s though regular camcorders. As they zoom in, the blur of light is cut off by the iris, and the resulting image is simply the shape of the iris, filled with whatever light is coming in(the object).
Any time you see a zoomed in pic of a UFO, that displays VERY defined edges(more so than SHOULD be seen in a zoomed in object), it’s simply the iris.
Back in the ’60s and ’70s “when (Stealthy???) UAV’s are not yet the norms
of the day”, U-2’s was a common sight throughout the world. But, they are usually founded
where passports had not been issued them. It is said that there are something like 80 such planes
downed by the Chinese alone and the pilot’s remains of these downed planes, it was in the papers, had
been shipped back to the Island of Taiwan only about 5 or so years previous.
lol, it’s always fun to mock our
neighbors from the North! That is until they give us
their cheap prescription drugs. 🙂
An eye for an eye :D:
Google,
Your mocking of my country, if I may say so, is very unjust and unfair!
I mean besides shipping prescription drugs sold to Canada
by the likes of Merk, Pizer, Johnson & Johnson, back to your country “at jobber rate”;
you are not giving us the other credits we are deserving :p .
I mean what about the BES, H-5, and the bales upon bales
of qulaity home-grown grass we ship you annually :D!!! I mean how’d you guys ever
survived if it weren’t for our quality and high grade grasses…
😀
:diablo:
Probably one of the Subs the UK sold
Canada in the first place, there were reports by the
Canadians of major defects with these.
No! It can’t be UK :p!
Reason: If it’s that unreliable, it has to be Chinese :p, it must be Chinese :p,
it’s gotta be Chinese :p. I mean who else on earth makes crappy subs like that except them
there ChiComs :p??? Damn Canucks, serve them right for buying Chinese :p!!!
Rusty buckets :p :p :p ?!!!!
:diablo:
OK, if J-8.05’s 🙂 are not in season, how’s ’bout this then???
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The Lightning by English Electric?
http://61.132.72.44/dswc/upload/images/52747457302.jpg
Or, is this one of the early
Swedish Draken series of aircrafts? And, what’s all
that stuff hanging from it????
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No more but an airliner says my instincts. But
publicly scrutinized, suggested, declared, and sold as “unidentified”.
Thus brining about this six million dollar questions:
Could this an Islander UAV’s???

Could this thing be the mighty Predators on the prow
without its Hellfires??? Or, is this merely a natural phenomena??? Strange!!!
Really strange!!! Who is doing all these snoopings????
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:p
Tornados, Mitsubishi F-1’s, Jaguars, and all arguments of superiority aside; and,
without appearing as if bragging; let’s put it simply this way: It (FBC-1’s) does to potential targets
what the French subsonic Super Etantard did to its targets in the Falklands :rolleyes: …
With “quantitative“, qualitative, and relatively “competitive” interceptors
and dog fighters to boot (J-7 G’s/MG’s/E’s, etc., as air support to keep the competition’s defenses busy),
the FBC-1/JH-7’s, too, can skim in low and release their load when on-target 😮 .
And that, friends, I’m sure, is Kim Jong Il’s greatest concern 😀
:p
CAC benefits by getting some or all of the funds it already put into the
MF project back, and also gets a bonus in the form of a ‘mini-FC1’ to offer to those countries
that cant even afford the FC1 and so could get more money in that way.
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Not plausible. Once again, the JF-17/FC-1 is distinctly and
uniquely a plane in its own rights. IMHO, there are no ‘mini-FC1’s’ to the J-MF.
Reason: To date, it (J-7MF) is deemed the poor man’s J-10.
Affixed with the label the poor man’s J-10, coupled with its original
objective (as a replacement if the FC-1 turn out a failed project), I am of
the opinion that the J-7MF, is potentially, a highly advanced project — one which could
rival that (certain characteristics) of both the FC-1 and the J-10.
But, I’m still sold head to heel by the timeless Fishbed airframe (Tech loaded, Mach
2plus capability, J-7 G’s, MG’s, & E’s series and/or whatever else comes later) and would throw
those in as a very high contender for AF’s around the world for many years to come.
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I agree with GoldenDragon, I will believe rumors of J/F-7MF prototypes being built when I actually see the finished article in flight. If anything Chengdu/PLAAF missed the bus on this, they should have gone with the J-7FS instead of the J-7G. Still, come to think of it, even the J-7FS came 10 years to late. One could say the J-7FS is what the F-7M should have been.
I feel it is more or less a certainty that Chengdu will be pushing the FC-1 instead of the F-7 as its future low end export fighter and (eventually) also an export variant of the J-10 (F-10 for export?) which will represent the high end of the product line. Especially if fitted with western electronics both of these aircraft could be really formidable. The target market will of course be countries wanting an answer to second hand F-16’s without all the stifling political baggage that comes along with buying from the USA. The J/F-7 will probably continue in production and in service but increasingly, over the next 10 years or so, as a single seat agressor (J-7G etc.) or advanced two seat trainer (think FTC-2000 aka. JL-9). Them’s my 2 (Euro) cents anyway.
I’ll be looking forward to news from Zhuhai, I just wish I could attend that show. 😀
😉
Actually, the “MF” is not a bad choice if and when compared to the older
J-7’s. It is probably technically way more advance than the J-7s in many ways because it
was initially designed/intended as a replacement for the FC-1. Remember???
I’d put the “MF”, potentially, a highly capable competitor to the likes of the Tigersharks, the F-CK’s,
maybe even intended to fill the needs posted by threats coming from early generation Mirage-2000’s and first
generation F-16s. If otherwise, why would they worked on the “MF” idea if their J-7s would do?
The J-7SF, by my understanding, was no more but a test bed for the “MF”. Or that was the word
throughout Asian medias and publications covering the “SF story” . There has never been any claims made attesting
to the notion “J-7SF” are J-7 or even FC-1 replacement or, ever become an actual production model.
I’d settle for the “MF” as a J-7 replacements anytime. The FC-1’s and the J-10’s, IMHO,
should be something distinctly in a class all its own “and something the Chinese are intending as a
challenge to themselves to test their expertist” in more advance ideas and systems.
:rolleyes:
Breaking! Breaking! Interesting Defense.com disscussion…
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Connecting the dots, maybe????
Defense.com have an interesting disscussion
happening (Topic: Warplanes to be inducted soon) this very moment and,
interestingly enough — could be this very plane.
Due to the potentials of conflict of interest however,
and people getting on my case, I suggest for others to upload the linkage
or the relevant infos and relating material instead.
I mean what other
dedicated Naval A/C’s do they have
aside from JH-7s???
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China has no Chinese engine? Or is it not ready?
:rolleyes:
As the developers of the JF-17/FC-1; and, though Pakistan and China has each commited
to a number of this plane (FC-1) and Iran speculated to be a dead-sure customer for some 40 units
before 2008; cost, IMHO, is still a major factor of the FC-1 and for many third world countries if and when
compared to the bargain basement $3,000,000.00 USD per unit J-7s these nations had been enjoying.
It is my opinion the J-7mf is intended purely an item to tap into the lower end of this market.
:rolleyes:
And yes, and remember that the W-88 issue actually involved a Taiwanese scientist, not a PRC one.
So think about it.
Actually, it was said that the Chinese had perfected both
the MIRV and the neutron bomb technology on their own accord in ’88 or
thereabouts. How they did it, it was claimed, was with the super computers imported from the west.
It helped Chinese scientists with the necessary tools and means of solving
the tough and massive calculations needed for the technology.
And, what’s most ironic: the person that broke this silence happens
to be this guy (wrote book) dispatched by the Pentagon to help the Chinese develop better safety
systems for their nukes so as to avoid accidental firings and launches.
My hunch: The trade off might’ve been super
computers from the west in exchange for the incorporating of western safety
firing technology and precautionary systems…
The scapegoat, Wen Ho Lee, come much much later…
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Hey dude, each person is unique 😉 . Also this is Internet , if you or anybody else cross me in the real world we wont recognize each other !!!( well depending of the person that would be good!! 😀 )
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You mean to tell me you’re even
more obsessive about your hardware’s in street
than you are 8000 feets above???
Wow!!!
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only thing preventing the U.S from attacking N.K is their deterrent capability….
and perhaps thats the reason for six-party talks with North korea whereas “shock & awe” for Iraq…. (Iraq did not have the means to target the U.S directly, nor any significant WMD capability as we now know…)
I know this’s not addressed to me, but WRONG! regardless!!!
Truth: The only thing preventing the U.S from attacking N.K., IMHO, is the
chance probability that a third, maybe even a fourth party, might jump in and act as a reliable
backup for him (Kim) at times of need whereas Iraq did not have such luxury.
Backups such as Russian Federation, Korea South, etc., etc., etc…
:diablo:
The tech for microchips and nuclear weapons are very different. I didn’t know Taiwan had nukes already. I am sure it would appreciate a few.
In retrospect and for argument sakes only:
What if the Chinese have the same frame of mind as you do, which
is not the case as we all know of course :diablo: ???