Mike Beachy Head has asked me (and probably others) if there are any unofficial climb-to-height records for the Lightning. There are no official records as these would have to be world records and the current turbojet records are held by a Sukhoi P.24.
Most of you will know that he is attempting to break the 20,000 ft and 30,000 ft records using a stripped-down T.5 but could do with knowing what the unofficial UK records are. I think that the late Brian Carroll may well have held unofficial records but I have drawn a blank on discovering times.
Anyone help?
Hi Dave, having qizzed Brian, Jimmy Dell and Peter Collins on a few occasions about this, (both Peter and Jimmy from AFDS days) they are all sure there was no offical climb to height record recorded for a Lightning.
Would love to be proved wrong on this and find out for certain.
They are all resonably unanimous that in a T5 Lightning from brakes off it would take 2.5 minute’s to reach 36,000ft, this was Brians ‘area’ as it were, he knew one hell of alot about the Lightning and its performance so I would be pretty certain this data were correct.
We all miss him either on the end of the phone answering questions like this or powering down Bruntingthorpes Runway in 904 or 728.
On another subject he did once tell us he managed 88,000ft out of Tengah in an F6
Hope this helps
Andy B (LPG)
Looks great Ben, will have to pop over and have a look next weekend, 🙂
Hope you dont mind me joining in
XR728 Binbrook ramp 1988
XR728 2002 May open day Bruntingthorpe
XS904 and XS919 (now at Wonderland adventure playground Notts, which I recently visited and got some piccies of).
Will post them if your interested
Binbrook 1987
XS904 on a wet open day in 1999 Bruntingthorpe
Sorry its only Lightnings 😀
Hi chaps, have had a good look though our stores (lots of boxes) and come up with this kit of parts for you, only had enough bits to make up one unit,


You didnt say in the request what pressure you need on your accumulators, so I had a rumage and found this one
We do have others if the pressure reading is to high for what you need, this particular one is for Lightning services pressure
Let me know if this is any good and we will take it from there, maybe a Q shed donation ??? 🙂
Cheers.
Andy B
Hi, we are up at the airfield tommorrow giving 728 a little stir, I know we have a box full of spare bits from Turner adaptors, I will make a point of digging all the bits out and see what I can come up with, will get back to you over the weekend or possibly Monday.
Cheers
Andy B (LPG)
thanx andy for them pics
they were great
would you have any idea what serial number of lightning that wing section could be off
i know it had camo on upper surface
No probs, sorry I couldnt be more helpful
Havent a clue on the serial number of your wing section sorry 🙁
Cheers
Wonderfull news, and a lovely shot, thanks for posting
Glad shes gone to a good home 😀
Nope!
Soloed XP741 (F3) then they called Endex!
Fun while it lasted.
Have a look here:
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/hangar/lightnings/XP741.htm
and here
http://www.aviation-picture-hangar.co.uk/xp741c.html
Bring back any memories ? 🙂
Great shots thanks very much for posting, the hanger seems full now, we were last there at Cockpit fest 2004 when we had a stall in the hanger
🙂
Andy B (LPG)
To all here’s the latest on XR753, I found this update on the UKAR site
http://www.ukar.co.uk/board/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=9;t=8495;hl=xr753
Looks very shinny, but at least she’s going to be looked after at Conningsby
Not to sure on the time scales for dismatling, transport and reassembly
Here’s a shot I was sent this morning

Good stuff 🙂
Good Thread, me old!
I flew the Lightning in service in 1983.
Cheque is in the post…!
Thanks alot for your contribution 🙂
Do you have either 728 or 904 in your log book ?
What I didnt mention is that anyone donating £50 or more will have their name on a donators board on a wall in the hanger when its finished
Please keep up the interest
Andy B (LPG)
Do you have a PayPal account, donations could be sent? To much logistics to write a cheque, get an envelope, stamp, post box etc. Sorry for being bone idle!
No sorry we dont have a Paypal account, its the old fashioned way at the moment, we are looking into it though
Sorry
Hi again, have a look at this site http://www.controltowers.co.uk/B/Binbrook.htm
And Im sorry to say Ive been though loads of shots I have from Binbrook and have only come up with these meager three, the first two were taken durning a base visit in 87 the the last one was taken on the 24th June 1988 when 728 was delivered to us at Bruntingthorpe, I thought I had alot more, will do abit more digging



Sorry their not internal shots as you asked for
Andy B (LPG)
Hi, I will dig some of my Binbrook shots out and post them here for you, Im in the process of scanning loads of my Lightning shots for my QRA Hangar thread all taken at Binbrook, Warton and Bruntingthorpe and there a few of the tower on the Binbrook ones.
Havent got round to the Binbrook shots yet
Cheers
Andy B (LPG)
Just a thought, I expect most of us are at the age that when someone says ‘what do you want for xmas’ and you say apart from the unobtainable without a lottery win ! nothing really.
Why not ask them to make a donation on your behalf to a deserving cause such as this, or any aviation memorial fund,project that takes your fancy?
It will help a good cause and make the givers happy that they have given you something that you would appreciate?
Alan.
Thanks for the comment Alan, 🙂
Andy B