Hi Folks, An identification task for all you good folks out there. Firstly, can anybody tell me whether the propeller is from a Hastings, if not what aircraft is it from? Secondly, is this a tailplane from a Hastings? Both were recently taken from Christmas Island by a friend of mine and he would like to know.
The prop looks a good candidate for a Hastings ( despite two blades being the wrong way round) but the wing structure insn’t.
John
A lot of interesting stuff visited Sutton Bridge over the years. I have a very sad picture of a totalled Gamecock at SB in “My box of delights”. As I said my guess is a Hurricane blade.
John
It looks to be “Merlin” rotation and Rotol type and would appear to have a final diameter in the range 10′ 3″ to 11′ ish and the profile looks good for something like a Hurricane / Halifax type of blade. If must be more familiar to some of our other posters.
John
Edit, in fact looking at more photos I think you have a Hurricane blade.
Can you post a photo?
And any dimensions, eg length and chord.
John
Last week, l_garey posted a pretty comprehensive list of aeroplanes at Bicester in the early 1960s on the thread I started regarding 71MU.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=78785I extracted the following from his lists:
06 November 1961 235 Eagle 3 RAFGSA235 “74” (w/n 1136)
13 May 1962 G-APEW EoN 403 RAFGSA 306 (=EON/4/001, BGA278)
17 April 1961 144 EoN 460 Red. EON/S/002. 144 on fin
10 December 1961 G-ARTE EoN 460/1B Silver
17 April 1961 220 Grunau Baby RAFGSA
17 April 1961 159 Grunau Baby RAFGSA
17 April 1961 281 Grunau Baby II RAFGSA
06 November 1961 D-3222 Ka6 “175” (-RAFGSA322)
17 April 1961 B-1 Kranich II w/no 635. Damaged
17 April 1961 206 Olympia 1 “26” RAFGSA206. Silver.
17 April 1961 228 Olympia 2B “112” RAFGSA
17 April 1961 246 Olympia 2B “117” RAFGSA. Silver
23 May 1969 G-AVHY RF4
17 April 1961 234 Skylark 3B RAFGSA234. BGA844, wn 1134
17 April 1961 212 T21B RAFGSA. (presumably cn588 WB925 RAFGSA212 BGA2964)
17 April 1961 238 T21B RAFGSA238. BGA846, w/no 1131
13 May 1962 242 T21B
17 April 1961 XN152 T21B Sedburgh TX1 Wreck. “AIR CADETS”There are also some fine pictures of the RAFGSA contingent on the Air Britain photo website http://www.abpic.co.uk
To add to your list Kirby Kite (240) (Red and Silver) was at Netheravon and Oly 419 (249)was also with Moonrakers RAFGSA.
Presumably the rearwards hinged doors act as air brakes. They would be pretty effective if they opened in flight.
John
Hi,
im new to the whole restoration thing and was wondering where you purchase the fabic to cover a/c from?thanks
Try Laura Ashley :diablo:
I have been starring at this picture for awhile, and all i can get is a JU-52 (for the larger of the three aircraft). However, according to http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com there are no JU-52 at that location.
The trailing edge don’t seem to taper enough for a JU-52, but that could be due to the angle (standing nose high and seen directly from above).
The wingspan is around 90′
It could be a distorted C-47, but I don’t think the wings are right and the fuselage seem to square.
Does anyone have another guess?
There is Spitfire to the south to gauge the size of the large one.
I would go with the DC.3, Spit and Provost and to the North is another base with what I think are a couple of Mig 19’s (Shenyang). The Yemen is quite an interesting place too.
John
Grunau baby 220 was at Bicester in 1961, and ASK18 236 was with Four Counties at Syerston in 76 as was T.21 212 and Blanik R12. I will try to find others.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v405/Aeroclub/Bicester61.jpg
I did my end of course radar exam on that very Venom at Yatesbury in 1960.
John
How about
The Spitfire of the South ?
Looks more like a monument to Keilkraft (small rubber powered balsa planes)
John
The windscreen shape certainly seems to fit the Klemm 26.
Choices are:- L26a-II G-ABFS 80 hp Siemens & Halske Sh13
L26a-III G-ABBU 95 hp ADC Cirrus III
L26a-III G-ABCI 95 hp ADC Cirrus III
L26a-III G-ABOJ 95 hp ADC Cirrus III
L26a-X G-ABRP 120 hp de Havilland Gipsy IIIOK, just need an “engine man” to narrow it down…..
Planemike
I’m sure that is a Cirrus and it’s not “CI”. And thanks for the shopping ‘sweetener’ which has been requistioned.
regards
John
Thanks for that TT.
I suspect that we’re looking at the remains of a 47 Squadron machine here as they were based in Khartoum while flying IIIFs.
Anne.
I would agree with 47 Sqn.
John
I found this information in a posting on Air Britain Information Exchange and thought it would interest you all… I quote from the post
“I came across this web page:
http://www.sahara.it/bm/saharaThree/zerzura/zmezzi/chi-il-pilota-senza-volto.shtml
It has photos that an Italian overland expedition took of the remains of a Napier Lion XI powered aircraft found north of Merga Oasis (also known as Nukheila) in Sudan. Last year the Italians approached Carl Warner, Assistant Exhibitions Manager at IWM Duxford, who thought it could be a Fairey IIIF. You can see his answer at the bottom of this page:
http://www.sahara.it/cgi-perl/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000035&p=4Can anyone confirm Mr Warner’s guess or, better still, identify the individual aircraft and tell how it came to grief? László Almásy is said to have noted down the wreck in 1935. One of the photos offers much readable engine data.
Jukka Keränen”
Paul
It looks very much like a Fairey IIIF (metal frame) and would appear to have been set fire to. The Long range Monoplane crashed in the Atlas mountains I believe.
John
Snargasher, Desford, Gemini, Barkley-Grow, KZ IV, Langley 29-90, Shcherbakov SHCHE 2, Secan Coulis and Lockheeds galore :0) The Coulis qualifies for your twin booms.
John