The Meteor suffered particularly badly during its gestation from heavy aileron loads – especially as speed increased. Spring Tabs were fitted to help with trimming but a final solution was the Servo Tab, which was fitted to all Mk’s of Meteor right up until the last of the NF series.
The Servo Tab came in with the later F.4’s and was standard on the Mk.8 – though with many versions of Meteors in the air in the 1950’s (Mk’s 4, 7, 8 and the NF series) many types of trim tab could be seen as the problem was worked through and solved. The final (successful) combination was an aileron trim tab and balance tab on each aileron covering the entire trailing of that control surface.
Anon.
Excellent gentlemen, Thank you Terry P and Anon. I now see why there are a confusing number of aileron types in use over the same time frame. I know the Spring-tab type were to reduce the aileron forces for RP use.
Thank you again, QED.
John
The thick spar visible in the wreckage and the fuselage contours certainly look right for a DVII
But the fin doesn’t. The Raab Katzenstein Schwalbe is very Fokker like and used in the 1930’s as an aerobatic trainer in Germany. a later type is the Tiger Schwalbe.
John
Lighter fuel. I’ve just done it on a piece of aluminium. I walked out to the car park with you and commented on your acquisition.
John
Why? Only twenty-eight were ever built, twenty-eight! What’s that, a single squadron, two? Were they ever used in action? They’re not exactly an attractive design, performance is, er…..don’t know…
…in fact, the only thing I really know is that they (apparently) had the first fully-enclosed turret?
Because it followed the Sidestrand into service of course!
John
Joe’s Auster would be entirely appropriate as 664 Sqn RAuxAF flew them at Hucknall after the war.
John
There is “Farnborough” list which gives the inter-changeability of the RAF(Factory) designs, BE, RE and FE parts. The DH .6 does not feature as it wasn’t a “Factory” design but similar parts may well have been used. From a ‘Look a like’ replica point of view the Albatros Publications Datafile 103 may be of use.
John
The Belfast Truss hangars should survive as they are used by private companies for non aviation use and I think they are listed, and are separate to the Rolls Royce site/airfield site. I visited the WW.1 airfield at Harling Road in Norfolk at the weekend and there is still a 1917 Hangar on the site used by a Commercial Vehicle company. Not sure if it’s a BT type.
John
I’ve only just come across this thread and read most of it. The earlier reference to Holkham beach and Brancaster is interesting and got me to thinking. Have none of you lot read ‘Riddle of the Sands’ , a spy story written about 1912 by Eskine Childers, an Irishman who later served with distinction in the RNAS and was later executed by the British in the 20’s for his participation in the Irish ‘Troubles’. He speculated a German invasion from the Friesian Islands into Norfolk. My favorite boyhood reading and re-read when I too became a ‘yachty’.
John
I’ve been a participant in this excellent thread for a number of years, not so much now. However I think that it might have run it’s course as there are so few people with the knowledge to participate and the subjects are getting rarer and rarer to find. Participation is largely a case of how broad ones personal knowledge of aeroplanes is, but also how extensive your reference library is eg “I’ve seen that before and I think it’s Romanian” (rustle of paper off stage) “Ah yes it’s a backwards flying Ceausescu Zombie Mk.1” and it’s in a Romanian language publication. The specialist book companies have made fortunes out of anoraks like me.
It’s a great thread. Perhaps it can be a occasional challenge as we do have many inquiries of the “my grandad flew this, what is it”. Even the ones we don’t know , we learn from, but many would struggle with a small grainy photo of a one off foreign aeroplane which only appeared once in a long dead foreign magazine. My shelves are full of dusty tomes.
John
RAF Upavon was ‘on’t t’other hill’ and as HQ Transport hosted quite a large Station Flight, Ansons (at least 3) and a Devon (I flew in both types). It’s possible the photo could have been taken from one of these. This is the best I can do.
John
Could it have been taken by a member of the RAFGSA Moonrakers Gliding club. I first flew from Netheravon in 1960. I’m not sure how long the club had been there but it’s membership included all ranks and services.
John
I’ve just seen this and immediately I though Bulldog at Cranwell with the distinctive hangars behind.
John
A modified one from my collection.
John
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I agree with Malcolm, It’s supposed to to be the Supermarine 224. But other contenders could be the BV 137 or Arado 80, but it’s really a figment of the imagination.
John
A Rotec on the front would not look too different from the Salmson with which the Swift first flew.
John