Is flightglobal good enuff ?
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/06/19/214851/rafale-first-with-thales-active-radar.html

By Jon who ? 😀

There is still another thing : the frontal plate might be 60cm in diameter, but the modules are set in a 55cm diameter circle, not occupying the whole plate.

On the big picture, there is something funny to notice : modules on the right are closer to the edge than on they are on the left.

1. Can you provide us with the reference? The exact wording would be nice to know.

DSI Hors Série N°6 June/July 2009 page 30 :

Une quantité respectable des 1001 modules émetteurs/récepteurs à arséniure de gallium composant l’antenne active[…]

Extract from the EXIF data of the picture :

Image Description = THALES / Ecrans du cockpit du Rafale, Ã Dassault Aviation (HM1) sur la base aérienne d’Istres, le 11/12/2008.

Date Created = 2008/12/11

French date, thus : 11th of December, 2008.

To me, it’s clear that it’s not the production radar. It’s a prototype. I don’t know how close to the production radar the prototype was.

FIRST HAND: Flying The Dassault Rafale

Shiv Aroor talks abiout his sortie on the Rafale.

Thanks !

Interesting sentences :

And yet, Dassault made no noise about it at Aero India. Not a word. No press statement. To them, as long as the right people knew, it didn’t matter. That’s Dassault apparently. That’s why you don’t hear very much about or from them, which can be pretty unsettling for a journalist.

Of course , Le Figaro will try to be optimistic its a Dassault newspaper !!

It’s not a matter of being optimistic or anything…

They QUOTE Mister Baroin saying that the rumors had been officially denied.

Even Le Monde, meanwhile, has published something about this :
http://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2011/02/09/rafale-bataille-de-rumeurs-sur-l-appel-d-offres-bresilien_1477583_3210.html
“A battle of rumors about the brazilian tender”

So it has nothing to do with political sides or press group ownership etc.

What do you trust more ? A Reuters article which does not name its sources, or the words of our minister stating what was told by brazilian officials ?
(or as usual here, anything or a French ?)

Could that attitude have coloured Embraer’s desire not to work with Dassault?

Do you realize Saab works with Dassault ?

France wanted a leader for each of the three main parts : airframe, engine, nav/weapon systems. There is nothing wrong with this. GB agreed to see Dassault leading the airframe, but not for Snecma leading the engine.
This was ONE of the problems.
http://rafale.freeforums.org/genesis-why-the-rafale-t58.html

Sintra,

I was not ironic, sarcastic or anything-ic, except pessimistic.

South Korea pilots chose Rafale but the country bought F-15K : ONE BLOW.

Holland : very close to the paper F-35 (with all the lies about the costs and all) in the evaluation, but defeated by US lobbying etc. TWO BLOWS.

Singapore inspired the sentence “Bamboo always leans the way it’s pushed the hardest”” published on the Dassault website at the time, probably for very similar reasons to those in SK: THREE BLOWS.

Morrocco : internal failure. FOUR BLOWS.

God damn ! What’s next ?

Brazil : Lula told us it’s done, then wait, and her successor would say no ? FIVE BLOWS ?

UAE buying F-18E ? SIX BLOWS ?

Definitly tough, for a plane which, up to now, has always ended up among the two finalists.

I don’t know if you include me in the “Rafale brigade”, and I’m not “angry” now.

I’ll answer you better later. To make it short, here on this forum, for years, we’d seen incredible lies about the Rafale, depicting it like a nice bomb truck…:rolleyes: