Are there VAT included in the numbers given in the NAO report ?:confused:

Not you ! :rolleyes:

GoldenPawn.

I wonder if 2018 gives us a window into when they expect the Typhoon to take over very Tornado specific taskings like Stormshadow…

This is nothing new, it seems. It is said that Tornado is still a prefered fighter for a2g tasks. We have to wait a bit before Typhoon bring something to the RAF in this area.

But the document also deals with problems with spares and flighting hours (impact on training ?)

160 isn’t it? 107 is the frontline number right?

The document says :

The number of Typhoons will fall to 107 as the older aircraft in the fleet are taken out of service by 2019.

Does anyone have a diagram or technical papers on this sort of configuration?

I think I have something about this on one of my hard drives, but I have no time right now. Maybe later.

I am well aware that RBE2 is electronically scanned. However it is limited by small antenna aperture, limited power output and poor performance at large angles compared to CAPTOR (and many other radars).

What do you know about the “limited power output” ?
What do you mean by “(and many other radars)” ?
The problem here is the E-Scan system which sacrifices the raw performance of range at large angles. Isn’t it true for any E-Scan radar ? (except those which also use mechanically moveable antenna)

Nevertheless, I think the AESA antenna is critical in ensuring competitiveness with other aircraft.

Thankfully, AESA has always been proposed. In addition, now, it is totally funded, tested, in production, just not yet in service.

You are hardly in a good position to call others stupid.

I’ve seen Blue Apple admitting he was wrong without problem, several times. Let me advice you to rise the level of argumentation…

As I told you, it was in reference to figures from the French Senat!

In Senat and Assemblée Nationale, you get costs with VAT.

Also I think they are too low for India, because this price might not include VAT, but also not the development costs, which normally will be added to exports.

True for the R&D costs : but only for the part paid by the industrials (25 percent). We have yet to see who will pay them, or how will they distribute them over several contracts…

As long as Dassault don’t offer a partnership, I don’t think we get the same price as they do and if you compare that to reported costs from other export competitions, you will see that the price is always higher.

Discussing about prices in export campaigns is tricky to say the least. Quoted figures aren’t flyaway prices, these are always for whole offers. I don’t know how one can tell, unless he had access to secret data.

PS : I wouldn’t even try to interpret Eurofighter numbers.