Yesterday, i tested my time travel machine. I sat in, and switched on the system, so as to see the future…

And the future was exactly the day when Typhoon will leave Switzerland… On this day (in the future), i turned my PC on, and read an unsigned article about Typhoon. I couldn’t save it, or copy the link (it was in the future). So, i’ll do my best to remember it. It should not be to hard, as i “was” shocked by some expressions and reported “facts” :

Typhoon blows up its concurrents in Switzerland

The Eurofighter, which was in Switzerland between November the 6th and …………….. just landed home at the ………. air base this morning.

Switzerland has launched a request for proposal to replace its fleet of F-5, and thus evaluated the three European fighter (Rafale and Gripen, before the Typhoon).

But pilots from the evaluation team, when interviewed by AJFM, didn’t lack compliments : “compared to its concurrents, especially the French new Mirage, the Typhoon really breaks new grounds in terms of radar performance, man machine interface, and swingrole capabilities !”.

During the journey in Switzerland, the Typhoon was the only fighter capable of reaching combat heights in the required time of 3s from brakes off, according to a senior member of the evaluation team. He adds “that was awesome, with such a weapon, our invaders should think twice before arriving at our borders !”. Interrogated about the reason why the Rafale remained on the ground with an extremely poor serviceability of 0%, a Dassault technician whispered to us “we were really astonished by their performance, Typhoon really “déchire sa race” !”, testimony that the European-british fighter is, as he said, “a f@cking full generation ahead of Rafale !”.

Switzerland is now about to sign a contract for the world best fighter, to be delivered as soon as tomorrow.

Developped since 1985 by BAe, without the French (who retired because they wanted the lion share in R&D, production, and sales : more than 99%), the Eurofighter Typhoon is by far (really !) the most versatile and powerfull fighter ever to be built by the human race…

As a xenophobic and nationalistic Rafale fanboy, as biased as i am, and unable to admit the simple truth, i couldn’t bear reading it further, so, i quickly decided to went back in the present…

Frightening… 😮

A:

The document that you gave has offered the answer:

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/13/pdf/budget/plf2009/a1202-tV.pdf

😀 I know.

But i really wonder why we did not order this missile sooner. 2018 !!! 😮

but because of the budget constraints

Is it such a costly weapon ?

For you, dear sir:

http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/141297.jpg

The Typhoon !! May it rule our hearts!!

What a beautiful picture ! 😮

Just as Scorpion, i think we’re getting close to the critical number of pages on this thread (nearly 26 pages if 30 messages displayed per page).

But i’m going to post it here, as i’m not sure about moderators’ opinion.

We have new reports and data about Rafale orders… It’s really sad. 🙁
http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/13/pdf/budget/plf2009/a1202-tV.pdf

We will never have 294 Rafale ordered for France, finally.
The number has been reduced to 286 (-22%) so as to match the 300 fighter plan for 2020 decided by the Livre Blanc.

In 2004, 59 Rafale F3 were ordered but later reduced by 8 so as to pay the “Rafale roadmap”. Now, those 8 Rafale will be ordered by the end of the year. (2008)

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/13/pdf/cr-cdef/08-09/c0809012.pdf
In 2009, it’s still planned, the following order of 60 Rafale post-F3 (AESA, DDM-NG, OSF-IP) will be signed. We still don’t know how many will be for the AdA or the MN, because it will depend on export contracts…

On December the 31th of 2008, we will have a total of 42 Rafale delivered (instead of 57 originally planned). The rate will be of 14 Rafale per year. But it seems, according to L’Express that in the 2009-2014, the delivery rate may vary between 8 to 11 per year, depending on the export (50 to 66 Rafale for 6 years?).

Of course, export success is highly needed, not for a matter of money, but to maintain the production rate.

There’s still no order for the Meteor, which is seen as critical for the export markets, because Typhoon and Gripen may certainly get it before the Rafale. However, it should only be for 2018 ! :mad::mad::mad: What is wrong with this missile ???

This is what i call “information”. 😀

A nice pic from the Swiss evaluation. Does anyone know by how much degrees the CIU can be swept in elevation?

CIU ? 😮

Anyone have idea of whether Rafale retains its FLIR sensor in the nose? I remember reading that FAF was dropping it because the original sensor was obsolete? And was the Rafale sent to Switzerland equipped with a functional FLIR?

The Rafale sent to the Swiss have a functional IR sensor. IRST/FLIR sensor is not ordered for F3 standard, but can easily be retrofitted from F2 aircraft, if the need arises. AFAIK a new system is planned in the longer term, I guess it’s a matter of funding here.

I’ve learnt something today, about Gerfaut. I don’t know if it’s true or not, but it sounds logical.
It seems that when Sagem won the contract, in fact, they couldn’t get it works as intended… So, DGA stopped the funding. Instead, the money have been spent on the AESA program. This explains why even Thales didn’t propose another solution, there’s merely no money for the HMDS now.

For the FLIR : it’s not only a FLIR… It’s the IRST. As Scorpion said, F3 can be retrofitted. The current IRST is obsolete, and there is no replacement yet.
For air2ground missions, the Damocles will replace it, in fact. The OSF is more suited to A2A missions.

But there are ways in which Typhoon is superior.

Yes.
But you should recognized that you could only post here so as to :
-again and again repeat that “there are ways in which Typhoon is superior” ;
-or attack the well known troll.

“The ridiculous one does not keep silent”?

Sorry TMor, are you aligning yourself with this idiot? I thought you more intelligent than that.

$
~ it’s not because one’s is ridiculous that he’s going to die.

Do you believe it’s for you ? Did you feel guilty ?:rolleyes:

Well, let me explain to you :

Life isn’t a matter of being aligned with “this idiot” or not. I’m aligned with myself, my will to inform or be informed, and keep discussing in a pleasant and friendly way.

Also, in my opinion, not being aligned with him doesn’t mean i’m aligned with you.

I’m sure you’ll agree with this too : it’s not because i do not side with you that i’m not “intelligent” (sometimes i have the feeling that you use this word -intelligent- as you would give food to a dog so as to motivate or reward it).

Nothing complicated.

Toan : thank you for this article. It seems that the SH pilots didn’t enjoy the game.:D

On the contrary. It was as if Lake wanted to keep even distances and didnt want to offend either side.
In fact I was annoyed by that!

Me too. No thruth, nothing substancial. Just a obvious need to write about Rafale supporters on Internet. :dev2:

But that’s not the topic.

😡
Lord Asap:

That’s why i think it would be just fine to keep a thread for each one, so that each thread will remain “contaminated” by the right propaganda.

THIS is a Rafale thread. So, keep discussing on Rafale here, and comment upon Typhoon in another one.

If you want to reply to a message about Typhoon posted here, please quote it in the other thread and go on.

:mad::mad::mad: