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  • in reply to: Slingsby T.18 Hengist #1002636
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    G-AFGE used at Farnborough for glider towing experiments. The log books show that only the prop was removed, and that the throttle linkage was removed to be replaced by the release mechanism. It was towed via a Y shaped harness from the main spar – you can still see where the leading edge was repaired afterwards.

    in reply to: Extant Pobjoys #981071
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    Off the top of my head (digging thru stuff may reveal more);

    Flying pobjoys UK;
    -Swallow G-AFGE
    -Swallow G-ADPS
    -Swift G-ACTF
    -Swift G-LCGL

    Soon to fly in UK?
    -Swallow G-AFCL (well on the way to recovery)
    -Swallow G-AFGD (but I’ve said that before)
    -Swift G-ABUS (not in France and in good nick, certainly almost flyable but not sure if it will – sorry sworn to secrecy re location)
    -Wot G-AVEY, motor (an ‘R’) runs, airframe needs a little more TLC
    – BK Swallow G-ACXE – almost there by all accounts.
    -3 x Swift replics all have motors; G-ECTF close to going in the midlands, G-OBBU airframe slow but motor running, wilts – the third I know little about but has motor and is advanced.

    Stored etc within UK;
    -Swift G-ABTC as mentioned by others above
    -Swallow G-AFGC, stored nr Exeter, plus 2 or 3 other motors. Owner keen to keep them and I respect their privacy, but believe they are rapidly devaluing (worthless?) due neglect.
    -RAF Museum has Swift G-ACGL with a prefectly good motor on the front. Shame.
    -Science museum has an ‘R’ stuck in the rafters and out of sight.
    – Shuttleworth apparently has at least one.
    – One (an R) at Duxford (on e-bay a few years ago – didn’t sell)
    – Other museum exhibits as mentioned by others above
    – Two more runners I know of but very much in private hands and several people have spares.

    Overseas;
    – Swallow EI-AFF (flying)
    – Swift ‘G-ABUU’ in Spain (flying).
    – Pobjoy racer in EAA museum (it’s an R). Not run for 10+ years.
    – One in a museum in California, ex Steve Wittman, was for sale but cannot find it now.
    – Part complete engine for sale in France a few years ago.
    – One in S.Africa for a Swift replica – incomplete.
    – 3 in a museum in Denmark, one on a stand and two in a Monospar hung in the ceiling.
    – Australia. One being re-worked for a Swallow restoration, and several more (3 1/2?)for projects being undertaken by someone who posts here, (one of which is running) – I’ll let them step forward if they wish.
    – NZ – Cataract, earmarked for an advanced project.
    – rumors of some licence built stuff in Czech republic. I know it was built but not sure still extant.
    – Rumours of some stuff in Argentina (see below)
    – Wilburs Smiths a/c and engine are reportedly still in the Sahara if anything is left.

    I’ve not really separated, types of Pobjoy here, but be aware they are very different animals, esp the ‘R’ from the Cataract/Niagara, and most bits are not interchangable, despite external similarity. As a rough guide Swifts were ‘R’ powered and Swallows and other stuff the latter models. There was a very good article in the PFA rag about 30-35 years ago by John Pothecary about these motors. It’s in my library somewhere and if time permits I’ll find it and give issue date here later.

    Also as someone says above, magnesium casting. Well yes, the crankcase was, but not the gearbox cover and other ‘strong’ bits – these were aluminium.

    Very interested about the Argentinian ones – does anyone know more. I suspect they were R’s, but would like to know what/who/where if anyone does.

    Please excuse me not giving too much detail, esp names etc but I know many of the owners etc value their privacy. I have however given registrations etc as anyone could dig them out with very little nouse.

    So to answer the question I guess, ten running, of which six fly, and in addition to these another 15-20 paperweights – some of which may go again as described above. As always though, I’m sure there are onr of two I know nothing about somewhere. 🙂

    in reply to: Extant Pobjoys #981084
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    Off the top of my head (digging thru stuff may reveal more);

    Flying pobjoys UK;
    -Swallow G-AFGE
    -Swallow G-ADPS
    -Swift G-ACTF
    -Swift G-LCGL

    Soon to fly in UK?
    -Swallow G-AFCL (well on the way to recovery)
    -Swallow G-AFGD (but I’ve said that before)
    -Swift G-ABUS (not in France and in good nick, certainly almost flyable but not sure if it will – sorry sworn to secrecy re location)
    -Wot G-AVEY, motor (an ‘R’) runs, airframe needs a little more TLC
    – BK Swallow G-ACXE – almost there by all accounts.
    -3 x Swift replics all have motors; G-ECTF close to going in the midlands, G-OBBU airframe slow but motor running, wilts – the third I know little about but has motor and is advanced.

    Stored etc within UK;
    -Swift G-ABTC as mentioned by others above
    -Swallow G-AFGC, stored nr Exeter, plus 2 or 3 other motors. Owner keen to keep them and I respect their privacy, but believe they are rapidly devaluing (worthless?) due neglect.
    -RAF Museum has Swift G-ACGL with a prefectly good motor on the front. Shame.
    -Science museum has an ‘R’ stuck in the rafters and out of sight.
    – Shuttleworth apparently has at least one.
    – One (an R) at Duxford (on e-bay a few years ago – didn’t sell)
    – Other museum exhibits as mentioned by others above
    – Two more runners I know of but very much in private hands and several people have spares.

    Overseas;
    – Swallow EI-AFF (flying)
    – Swift ‘G-ABUU’ in Spain (flying).
    – Pobjoy racer in EAA museum (it’s an R). Not run for 10+ years.
    – One in a museum in California, ex Steve Wittman, was for sale but cannot find it now.
    – Part complete engine for sale in France a few years ago.
    – One in S.Africa for a Swift replica – incomplete.
    – 3 in a museum in Denmark, one on a stand and two in a Monospar hung in the ceiling.
    – Australia. One being re-worked for a Swallow restoration, and several more (3 1/2?)for projects being undertaken by someone who posts here, (one of which is running) – I’ll let them step forward if they wish.
    – NZ – Cataract, earmarked for an advanced project.
    – rumors of some licence built stuff in Czech republic. I know it was built but not sure still extant.
    – Rumours of some stuff in Argentina (see below)
    – Wilburs Smiths a/c and engine are reportedly still in the Sahara if anything is left.

    I’ve not really separated, types of Pobjoy here, but be aware they are very different animals, esp the ‘R’ from the Cataract/Niagara, and most bits are not interchangable, despite external similarity. As a rough guide Swifts were ‘R’ powered and Swallows and other stuff the latter models. There was a very good article in the PFA rag about 30-35 years ago by John Pothecary about these motors. It’s in my library somewhere and if time permits I’ll find it and give issue date here later.

    Also as someone says above, magnesium casting. Well yes, the crankcase was, but not the gearbox cover and other ‘strong’ bits – these were aluminium.

    Very interested about the Argentinian ones – does anyone know more. I suspect they were R’s, but would like to know what/who/where if anyone does.

    Please excuse me not giving too much detail, esp names etc but I know many of the owners etc value their privacy. I have however given registrations etc as anyone could dig them out with very little nouse.

    So to answer the question I guess, ten running, of which six fly, and in addition to these another 15-20 paperweights – some of which may go again as described above. As always though, I’m sure there are onr of two I know nothing about somewhere. 🙂

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