There’s absolutely no chance of the Shack going to Woodford – well, at least to be housed indoors. They’d need a new building for it and whilst they are at it they would be compelled to make it big enough for the Vulcan too. It would be a darned shame if the Shack were to go to Woodford (a fine museum, by the way) and sit outside exposed to the elements.
Anon.
Lack of a hangar at new Woodford Museum is a woe full decision. Whilst I know money talks there should have been efforts made to secure more of the BAE site to act as a museum. With the right plan some (or all) of the MOSI could have moved out of the central Manchester site to Woodford. I am not suggesting that the whole site, airfield, runway ect should have been preserved, just enough hangarage to maintain an attractive museum.
Thanks for the information.
Any more news / photos of whats happening at Hendon ? Might be able to get down for a quick visit over the weekend.
Paul
Whilst I understand that the CAA will do what it considers best for the UK aviation industry. Where does if stand within the international community ? Unless adopted by the FAA or EASA does that mean their sky’s are less safe ?
I do not disagree with you Denis. But if the F-5 replica does stay in place efforts will still have to be made to ‘donate’ it to a local group prepared to maintain it. Would be nice to think that a home could be found at Bentwaters for it.
ps also agree that is where the F-100 should go as Duxford are foolishly getting rid of it.
With the closure of USAF operations does anybody know what will happen to the F-5 Replica current on the gate. Whilst I understand it is a replica it appears to have with stood the weather well and should make an interesting addition to any museum. One would hope that it does not come under the NMUSAF rules and a ‘gifting’ arrangement made.
Could be Lancaster BIII SW342 with Adder / Viper tail and Mamba nose
http://www.lancaster-archive.com/lanc_photos_testbed.htm
or Lincoln B2 RF530 with Adder tail and Tyne nose
or Lincoln B2 RF402 with jet ? tail and Naiad nose
http://www.mediastorehouse.com/avro-lincoln-test-bed-for-the-naiad-engine-rf402/print/5085040.html
Line drawings are in Modellers Data File Lancaster/ Lincoln
Paul
Mike J appears to be correct. Information is leaking out from behind the closed hangar doors at NW9.
Firstly there is the RAF Museums own website and e-newsletters, sign up for the RAF centenary here http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/contact-us/newsletters.aspx
The latest issue announces the Heritage Lottery donation of £1.7 million this being, from what I understand, to be spent on landscaping, grassing over some car parking areas and removing the iron railing from the front of the site and renovating the original WW2 buildings located between the Milestone building and the Graham White. It had previously been mentioned making one of the old building into a new cafe with outdoor seating and play areas.
Also announced is the wonderful idea that two external ‘media’ companies have been appointed to oversee 2D and 3D interactive exhibits and to “turn the exhibition space into a laboratory-like environment”
Secondly an interview with RAFM boss Maggie Appleton in March edition Flypast. Her key points are
1) The new landscaping, picnic and play areas and the removal of the external fencing.
2) BoB hangar renamed Hangar 1 and a “new glass entrance where the current restaurant is” and everything except the Sunderland being moved out to allow the Centenary display dreamed up by the media teams
3) Milestones will be refurbished and “emerging as a science, engineering and technology learning space”
4) Loaning of aircraft exhibits to partner museums
Obviously all this cost money, none of which appears to being spent on the aircraft :apologetic:
I remember watching a TV show last year which visited the Hovercraft Museum.
A quick search shows it to be “Salvage Hunters” Series 7 Episode 2 In the UK it is screened by Quest do not know how to search their playback service.
The show featured the SRN4 and showed other hovercraft displayed inside it as well at the presenter talking a hovercraft ride.
RAF Museum Hendon were offer ‘sit in a Spitfire’ expericanes last year, do not know if that fits your requirements ?
Thankyou for the explanation Peter. Always sad to see aircraft entombed within buildings with no hangar doors, but understandable. I am professionally involved in planning and design so can see the reasons for the design restrictions. Very sad it allows no room for future expansion without further costly planning applications.
Would it be possible to post a link to the approved planning consent documents so we can all see the proposed layout, expect materials and landscaping have been a pain as well ? Such planning condition can add £1000’s to the overall cost.
Congratulations to all concerned.
Paul
With the movement of the aircraft to undercover storage what a happens to the plans for ground running any of the jets ? IIRC the Sea Vixen, Buccaneer and Lightning were all being worked on with plans to engine run them ?
Undercover is good especially for the winter months when the collection is closed, but the size of the building with limited high will mean moving aircraft in / out for ground runs difficult.
I do hope the temptation to fill every available space between the aircraft with display cabinets, engines, and sign boards can be resisted. It looks like a small space, but it should still be possible to see the aircraft.
The first rule of marketing is that the right price is the price people are willing to pay in return for what you are selling them.
Moggy
Whilst I agree with that statement a problem remains.
Some people and organisations will pay wherever price is asked, say £100 per ticket, if one thousand people buy those tickets TFC/IWM make £100,000, and TFC/IWM only have to provide seating, toilets, food outlets for 1000 people their costs are reduced. So the best financial model is higher prices = few people = higher profits.
I am the not only one to say this but the price for airshow tickets is at an all time high and it is becoming hard to justify the costs, lord only knows how families can afford it. I was a taken to airshows as a child, and I am attending and contributing to airshows, but where is the next generation going to come from if like horse racing, hunting and shooting the event become teh preserve of the rich and famous. Where Duxford Airshow is seen as just another addition to the Henley, Wimbledon and Goodwood. I fear that the corporate event management teams are moving in if you dont wear an expensive watch or drive a posh car you are not welcome.
You need a piece of the original airframe to provide an identity (however spurious) in order to satisfy the airworthiness authorities (FAA or CAA) that you are rebuilding an original, rather than constructing a homebuilt.
A problem arises there because the C/N or data plate 42-103100 was used as the identity for John Muzala’s P-51B Berlin Express N426QA
Would have to agree as an exhibit the Mustang wing and its history looks better
Obviously more important to hold quilt shows, car auctions and corporate Christmas parties in a building designed for and initially call the ‘conservation area’ than protect aircraft from the worst of the winter weather.
IWM managed to pack half a dozen aircraft from the AAM during the summer, why not offer same space to the Victor, Viscount and Ambassador and others ?