Thank you for posting that clarification – again your observations are well stated and I do not disagree with the NW observations.
At least it has now been raised up and is moveable, both factors that will aid the restoration work that is required.
Good afternoon Bill and thank you for your thoughts and suggestions, which are appreciated. 🙂
I’m no airframe expert, but I’m not certain that the floor supports that are in the cockpit area are original; it’s difficult to see from the NAM pictures but they seem to be more like Dexion. A few years back I arranged for a forumite to photograph inside WB491, but despite several searches I cannot find his photos on here!
In view of the interest that the recent progress reports have generated I will try to get approval to open up the fuselage at the Aeroboot / Aerojumble on March 1st and thereby let interested individuals visiting on that day have a closer look.
Who am I to disagree with your well stated observations; yet the reality remains that NAM doesn’t currently have the undercover space to accommodate the Ashton fuselage, or the money to construct a building for it.
Or perhaps you are suggesting that NAM should have let it be scrapped at Woodford. :confused:
The cost of repairing the damage to the floor section of the cockpit (as delivered to Newark), will no doubt be considerable; but hopefully this will be something that NAM can now try to tackle.
As someone that has been part of the team that has raised the funds to allow two hangars to be built at Newark in the last 25 years (housing at last count 52 airframes); I feel comfortable in my contribution towards trying to ‘save’ a modest proportion of Britain’s aviation heritage.
On the ever changing Ashton news front two clips of yesterday’s move have been uploaded onto YouTube; these can be accessed via the NAM news page or the links below:
Lots of airframes deserve a roof over their head and the Ashton is clearly on that list. Due to its size (illustrated by the new photograph in the Ashton album of the move team pictured in front of the fuselage) I doubt that NAM has space to move WB491 into any of its current buildings.
IIRC it was one of the items nominally earmarked for Hangar 3, however other more pressing projects have delayed that scheme for the foreseeable future.
Welcome MindOverMatter (Mark).
I have been involved with some background research at Ludford Magna and East Lindsey District Council has an aviation booklet that features that base, you can see a PDF version here – if you send me a postal address via Private Message (PM) I will send you a printed copy. 🙂
The Blyton information is also interesting and I visited the airfield a few weeks ago as part of another project. I will send you message via PM about that. Your post this morning has brightened up what looks set to be a grey day here in Nottinghamshire.
A Series 2 FRED, G-BJAD is on loan to and displayed at Newark – not for sale though and still to be covered! 😉
It’s been a while coming to fruition John and it has involved some innovative engineering that has utilised some of the strong points on the fuselage – I’m also looking forward to seeing WB491 in its new location; this Saturday for me!
I’ll look out for you on March 1st at the Aeroboot/Aerojumble – only 9 more tables available for sellers!! 😉
An update from the museum this afternoon has advised me that the Ashton fuselage was successfully moved into its new location this morning – additional comments indicate that the ‘freshly elevated’ fuselage is also now visible from Drove Lane, when approaching the museum site from the A46 direction! 🙂
Addendum: A couple of fresh photos of the move and the fuselage in its new location can be found in the album on this part of the NAM website http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/gallery.php
Many thanks for that reminder, I’d completely forgotten about that thread (information overload on my part 😮 )
For completeness and so that people can be reminded of the Log Book entries here’s the link http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?124666 🙂
Thanks for the feedback – I’ve just been looking through the scans of Stan’s Log Book entries for a project I’m working on that includes RAF Bottesford and I was just curious. 🙂 He and his crew flew five Ops on ‘sugar’ in autumn 1943.
Stan recounted some interesting contacts when ‘sugar’ was unveiled at Hendon and I wondered whether they might be connected.
Did he by chance ever fly with Stan Bray as remembered in this link? http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?113779
If the company is the original Avery weighing company then they merged with an American company a few years ago to become Avery Weigh-Tronix™ http://www.averyweigh-tronix.com/uk/
I used to work for one of their sister companies but I never heard of any aviation connections in the UK other than the Railweight company in Stockport, which originated from connections with Manchester’s aviation industry!
You learn something new everyday – just spotted the following link http://www.averyweigh-tronix.com/About-Us/Avery-Historical-Museum/ they might be able to help!
Hendon’s example may be different, but IIRC most Vulcan’s that came out of service in the 1980s had their cockpits stripped as part of the disposal deal with the RAF / MoD. XM594 at NAM certainly was striped over a 4 day period, post delivery. In XM594’s case the missing parts were later purchased from the local dealer at Scarle!
This is how Newark covers open cockpits – from 50p per person for Vulcan, Shackleton, Hastings etc. 😉