Re: Twinotter23
I’ll think about that.Rijnko
๐ That would be great but this is really pushing it I know; RAF Winthorpe (where Cockpit-Fest is held) was the home to 1661 HCU, which operated Stirlings for many years โ now that Stirling panel would look great alongside the Spitfire section and I know that youโd be made very welcome! ๐
Re: Twinotter23: Alas it is to big to transport all the way to the UK.
Rijnko
That’s a pity – perhaps you could try to combine with some fellow ‘European Cockpitters’ and all come along together! ๐
Nice panel ian_ – will you be attending Cockpit-Fest in 2010?
Now that would look nice at Cockpit-Fest 2010 – 70th Anniversary of the Battle of Britain and all that!! ๐
๐ You could test your recognition skills if you visit here!
No problem – get some practice in with those cards! ๐
There has been some debate about the date of the anniversary and whether to include the ‘Royal’ tag; mainly because the Corps didn’t get their warrant until the Second World War.
Nevertheless from Saturday 2nd January it looks like being fun! ๐
If the aircraft type exists people go out and physically measure them โ several types at Newark have been โmeasured-upโ in this way.
This type of work on the Canberra PR7 at Newark featured in the recent BBC2 documentary about Airfix.
Not sure how they proceed when an example isnโt around.
There might be some clues in here http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=94538&highlight=Ashton
Looking at the picture of it taken in 1977 (link posted earlier) its fate had long been sealed with the nose smashed off and extensive fire damage to the lower part of the fuselage. What a shame…..
Jon
From memory :confused: it wasnโt on its undercarriage when NAM enquired โ I believe that it might even have been me that sent the enquiry letter (all my correspondence from that era is now in the museum archive!)
On a plus note we did secure the Safir at about the same time – another one of my letters! ๐
….It does seem unbelievable that the Argonaut lasted so long at Heathrow and it is really sad that as late as 1982 no one felt able to offer her a good home.
I believe that Newark might have made enquiries about the Argonaut but it was around the time that both the Gannet and Vulcan acquisitions were in the pipeline so I understand that sadly it went by the wayside.
I guess it might also come under the thread โWhat has slipped through your fingersโ ๐
Presumably when the Herons took over.
:confused: NAMโs de Havilland Heron 1B G-ANXB flew its first Air Ambulance sortie with British European Airways on May 4, 1955 out of Renfrew โ with its last flight with the BEA Scottish Division being noted as March 31, 1973. {Source NAM Guide Book}
Have you mentioned the requirement to your contact at Newark? They might be able to help.
I would guess that the problem would not be with the airframe but the engine. Believe there are all the drawings at Ilyushin.
The article in Aeroplane mentioned that the engine for the static project was being partially stripped to reduce weight.
There was an article (in either Flypast for Aeroplane) some time ago featuring an engineer who was working on one in Sandtoft (iirc) and he said the construction method was so primitive (because of the pressure of war) that it wouldn’t get past the CAA in order to fly it
There was an article in Aeroplane in May 2005 but that only referred to a static IL-2 project that was ultimately destined for the RAFM; although the article did briefly compare the difference in Russian and British construction techniques.
The project wasnโt at Sandtoft either! ๐
I believe that ‘destination Duxford’ might have been part of the terms of the HLF grant. :confused:
In the New Year I’ll see what (who :diablo:) I can get set up for this summer’s ‘Special Fund Raiser’. ๐