I wonder how many were shot down in the Newark area? Probably quite a few given the proximity to Nottingham, Derby etc
I don’t believe that there we many He 111s downed in the Newark area; indeed the town itself suffered very few serious raids despite being home to the Ransom and Marles ball bearing factory.
Don’t forget that 58MU was located alongside the old A46 road.
Have you asked any questions here? http://www.newarkairmuseum.org
Not sure about the Belfast joints, but I believe that both Beverley cockpits currently in preservation were cut to remove them.
XL149 certainly was; as I posted elsewhere I saw it chopped in 1977 at RAF Finningley.
and how big is a Vulcan? No where to put a sponsor???
If it gets a logo under the wings and is sponsored for 1o years, some nit picker will object.
Yes they will – they are called the Heritage Lottery Fund and I believe that it should wear an original colour scheme [or similar wording] was a condition of their grant!
Perhaps more interesting today has been the BBC East Midlands TV coverage – they need funding again for next year!
…. And how many Blackburn Beverley aircraft now remain? To rely on a single example is to tempt fate….
Whilst I’m not a fan of the Cold War building at Cosford at least “the one” is under cover, in a controlled environment and in a building I believe with a fire suppression system installed!
This gives it a much better chance of survival than many airframes that I could name.
A massive undertaking for anyone contemplating trying to move one i.e. for starters scaffolding would be required, due to working at height regulations; the list would just grow and grow.
There wasn’t all this fuss when the others were scrapped at Rolls-Royce Hucknall in the late 1970s :confused:; helped recover a set of portable toilets from them! Those were the days.
As Bruce says, one flying and one inside; not a bad return in from 10 built.
I think we can sum it up. The last flight of the Vulcan will be at Duxford on October 5th????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
a) Fulfill some of the conditions imposed by the award of a lottery grant?
Condition meet – to restore a Vulcan Bomber to full working order.
b) Give as many people an opportunity as possible to see 558 in case the axe does fall and they have to ground her?
This has been met to a point.
c) To try and attract a sponsor or sponsors to ensure her long term future?
Tried, but no one wants to sponsor the original WMD regardless of it’s net worth.
We tried and gave it our best and our best gave us XH558.
I think you might find that their HLF contractual commitments are valid for a little longer than two months!
Not really in the same league but don’t forget in the Lancaster Corner at Newark Air Museum is the small fuselage section from the 9 Squadron Mk.1 Lancaster W4964 WS-J, which completed 106 bombing missions.
On the news bulletin I saw last night they were asking for public donations – £10 per person to fund the purchases. A bit like TVOC!
One of the paintings is with the Museum of Scotland [aren’t they involved with East Fortune??:confused:] – so let’s hope they raise the money by donation and keep their other budget for the planes, like Concorde. :diablo:
I used to work on the Shack outside at Mawgan, and am only too aware of how difficult it is to look after a large 1950s airframe when it is contsantly battling the elements. I do know that we all hope that it would be taken over nationally, and hopefully one day covered.
Look on the bright side at least the RAFM has an AEW.2 displayed inside at Manchester!
Back in 1977 I helped dismantle the Mk.3 that’s at Newark and had to watch when Beverley XL149 was actually chopped at Finningley – heart breaking but sadly it happened!
The UK’s aircraft preservation movement is one of the most diverse in the world and IMHO it would be very difficult to “un-pick” how it has evolved by trying to introduce a new national scheme to save airframes. It was difficult enough to devise a listing scheme like the NAHR to identify what is important and worth saving.
With the current financial situation and the increasingly scarce funding resources available to the heritage and arts sectors as funds are drawn away to the 2012 Olympics; I believe that financially such a scheme would be a none-starter.
It’s almost beyond belief that in this day and age a national museum like Hendon should have to take out banner adverts on sites like this to draw in visitors and presumably generate operating funding. So much for free museum access!
On the last NAHR [September 2001] – XB259 then at the Museum of Army Transport was listed as ‘Significant’. Not sure what status it might now have as it has effectively gone into ‘private’ hands.
Noteworthy listings on the NAHR were the two cockpit sections:
XB261 – then at Duxford and XL149 – then at Newark.
XB261 [from the former Southend airframe] is now at Newark http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm
XL149 [from the former RAFM Reserve Collection at RAF Finningley] is now at Aeroventure in Doncaster.
With all due respect Hendon ducked out of the Beverley situation this when they let theirs be scrapped.
A massive undertaking, which I doubt anyone would be prepared to take on – although Elvington supposedly looked at the Paull example several years ago.
I guess nationalising an airframe is an interesting concept! 😮
I guess the National Aviation Heritage Register partially covers it – but where is the long-awaited new edition?
What fees are you offering? 😀
Apparently she made the Newark area as well…
Parts wise it might be worthwhile checking at Newark, as their Chipmunk project is progressing well ….
http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=14
However the last time I was over there they seemed to be fabricating their own fairings etc.