Thanks for the info, Mark, I was fairly sure it was a P-type but needed to make sure.

Will keep my peepers on evil bay and at the aerojumbles.

Regards,

John.

Perhaps you could look here John http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=44 😀

Sorry to hear about your minor shunt – fingers crossed that you get a courtesy car.

Peter,

Newark do open cockpits see here for next weekend’s offering http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=41

They have a dedicated team of volunteers [who have to be museum members] http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/membership.htm that supervises the access.

To ensure that health & safety criteria are fulfilled the members of the Cockpit Opening Team undergo training and are checked out before they go live on aircraft.

I believe that there is at least one regular poster here who is a member of their team!

I believe that Newark charge extra for this because they cannot guarantee that their volunteers will always be available.

Whilst I genuinely didn’t intend to return to the ‘fray’ on this one; overnight I have been reminded by a fellow volunteer at Newark of the following recent development.

Newark’s Hangar 2 [their HLF / volunteer funded project] has recently been ‘reviewed’ for one of their training modules by NAHSI as an example of how under cover aircraft accommodation can be provided.

[NASHI is the Duxford based joint BAPC / IWM Duxford training scheme] http://www.nahsi.org.uk/

I understand this work could include cost evaluations with Munters UK of Huntingdon for the provision of air control measures that can be retrofitted to existing building like Newark’s Hangar 2.

So perhaps someone out there believes straight forward ‘hangars’ are an option for consideration.

Yup.. you do keep on trotting out incomplete information…

Only quoting facts, which were correct at the time of the original posts and which in some cases were highlighted at Duxford hosted meetings / seminars.

Sure we are not comparing like for like and I have never claimed we are – at least Newark’s project was the first to get a Varsity under cover, not such an insignificant sized airframe!

As I said in post #75

“I believe that if the combined budgets had been spent nationally so much more would have been achieved for aircraft preservation.

However the reality is that’s all water under the bridge – so everyone needs to move on!” That’s what I intend to do.

Many familiar arguments coming out; sadly I’ll re-quote myself::o

“Several years ago I attended a seminar organised by the British Aviation Preservation Council [BAPC] at Duxford in the summer of 2000. The seminar reviewed the way forward to protect the Benchmark and Significant airframes on the National Aviation heritage Register [NAHR] and one very interesting figure emerged from the review. Assuming a typical cost of between £250 and £300 to provide one square metre of basic under cover aircraft accommodation, it would “only” cost between £35 and £40 million to get all the Benchmark and Significant airframes listed on the NAHR under cover. I highlight the word “only”, because this is a small amount when you look at what has been poured into ventures like the Millennium Dome, etc.

For up to date costing data refer to Flypast – March 2005 and Newark’s Heritage Lottery Funded Hangar, project cost £533,000 to provide 2,400m² of basic under cover accommodation at a cost of £222 per m². Admittedly this does not provide accommodation to the standards being achieved by the national museums with their environmentally controlled facilities, but it certainly slows the deterioration to a more manageable level.”

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=53556&highlight=HLF

These also make interesting reading:

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=64094&highlight=HLF

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=57865&highlight=HLF

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52906&highlight=HLF

The one at Newark was flown in to RAF Scampton from Karup A.B. in 1995 and was dismantled and moved by road to Winthorpe. http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/aircraftlist.htm

I understand from my contacts at Newark that it is on long-term loan from the Royal Danish Air Force.

Displayed inside hangar 1 at Newark it may be one of the cockpits that is viewable during their open cockpit event on September 13th & 14th. http://www.newarkairmuseum.org/newsItem.php?id=41

Check out: http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1963/1963%20-%201693.html The key problem is one of size and where to make the cut. That said, the future of even the cockpit depends on the good will of the owners, who I have just written to…

Phillip,

I hope that you have a good plan in place, a good bank balance and a large back garden!

Good luck.:eek: