Great cockpit pictures, you might get some more good shots at the Cockpit-Fest at Newark Air Museum, June 17th & 18th 2006.
See link for details:
Interesting picture of ‘546’ – the substancial piece of Seafire which is at Aeroventure might well match some of the cockpit area of this solving a mystery. Pity someone spoilt the overall picture by putting the Seafire in front of what appears to be a Maggie!
Not sure about the Seafire details, but I would guess the photograph location was Abbotts Yard, Northern Road, Newark and the Magister would be G-AKAT [T9738]. I’m sure Nev Franklin could fill in the details!
Moondance – the pictures are OK on my system.
There are some interesting comments in the latest issue of Professional Engineering [3 May 2006] under the headline “Vulcan bomber flight hit by unexpected cost increases”
Professional engineers and registered users can log on to the website at http://www.profeng.com but below IMHO are some of the interesting points made in the article.
1. “Plans to return the historic Vulcan bomber to flight have suffered a big setback because of unforeseen cost increases from two un-named aerospace contractors”.
2. “Felicity Irwin, Vulcan to the Sky Campaign director, said: “The overrun is arising from an under-estimation of the complex nature of the aircraft and the amount of manpower hours needed to complete.” “We need another million to be in flight – £350,000 immediately, £500,000 for the first test flight and £150,000 to prep for the first display.”
3. “The project has cost £4.2 million so far and the plane is currently halfway through the refurbishment programme.”
4. “Irwin’s comments have surprised Marshall Aerospace, the primary contractor for the project, which has 20 people working on the plane. It said the complexity of the plane was not a hindrance to engineering work. “We are delighted to be involved in the project and work is continuing to a high standard. We have had no indication that work is going to have to stop and from our view point work on the plane will be completed by the end of the year.”
In view of the way this has gone the link below might be of interest for the forum
http://www.worldcargonews.com/
:confused: Any way what is Legends???
A large vote of thanks must go to Peter Wood and Alan Purdy who brought her from a wreck to something that was very near flight.
Well said David! We should also not forget Alan Purdy’s team!!
I think we are searching too deeply about what is “Wimbourne”.
The details below are from the Contacts page on the VTTS website:
Robert Pleming
Director
Vulcan Operating Company
Tel: 0044 (0) 116 247 8145
Email: [email]voc.aeroplane@btconnect.com[/email]
Felicity Irwin DL
Campaign Director and Trustee
Vulcan to the Sky Trust
Freephone: 0800 083 2022
Tel / Fax: 0044 (0) 1258 841 274
Email: [email]vulcantothesky@aol.com[/email]
PO BOX 3240
Wimborne
Dorset
BH21 4YP
England
: [U]Non HLF costs
( Items pre-granting of HLF funds and
those items outside the scope of the
grant application e.g .fundraising etc) £334,000…Recognise this figure, the original shortfall……Project set up costs???
This is an interesting comment / observation that strikes me as though someone perhaps did not fully appreciate the terms of the Heritage Lottery Fund [HLF] contract with respect to what work would be eligible for funding!
Also with the project running on a 70% HLF funding and 30% VTTS matched funding basis I presume that HLF would require proof of money in the bank or a detailed fund raising plan / strategy.
I assume that it would be the latter i.e. fund raising plan. If that is correct what activities that VTTS listed in this plan are not working to generate the matched funding needed?
Another good link for aviation in Lincolnshire is via the ‘Things to do’ – “Aviation” part of the Visit Lincolnshire website.
Do you think there would be much interest if Robert carried out a web cast for Q&A’s?
I saw RP on the TV last week and IMHO I would not put him forward again as I believe you require someone that appears to be more inspirational.
Would be interested to see the breakdown of actual cash donated to the project as compared to “gifts in kind”.
Too much of the latter can lead to cash flow problems with Heritage Lottery Fund [HLF] projects. Especially as I believe that the HLF normally pay accounts after the ‘project’ has settled a monthly account with the contractor, this can be 28 working days after the project has paid the money. As a consequence cash flow can become a critical aspect for a small organisation trying to run a big project on limited funds.
Papa Lima,” What are you talking about?”
The Swift spent many years on external display, which is why the canopy looks the way it does now.
Checked with a contact at Newark this morning, they have a spare canopy waiting to be fitted. Work not imminent due to the current commitment of their staff and volunteers involved in dismantling the Viggen! 🙂
1. One of my pet hates is clouded canopies due to outside display and the effects of ultra-violet light (why don’t people put covers over them when their museums are closed?). One of your shots shows the Newark Swift thus blighted, with a cockpit section next to it with crystal-clear prerspex; why not swap them?
Steve,
I think Newark would have a couple of problems with the above idea:
Newark is open 361 [362] days each year and I doubt they could cover all cockpits each night!
I believe that the complete Swift and prototype Swift cockpit [arrived at Cockpitfest 2005] are both on loan with Newark, from different people and therefore unlikely to be able to swap canopies. They might not even fit!
I have been pondering the timing of the latest VTTS news release [18.04.06] and I cannot decide whether they have employed a bit of the HM Government tactic of trying to “bury the bad news!”
Easter Holidays, Queen’s 80th Birthday etc. :confused:
There seem to be contradictions in the timing. On one hand VTTS seem to have achieved excellent regional TV and radio coverage around the UK, implying they are really committed to addressing the issue of the financial shortfall.
Whilst on the other hand for their mainstream fund raising pool i.e. the aviation enthusiast, the timing is poor, with most of the aviation magazines being on, or fast approaching their press dates for publishing the next issue. Perhaps I am getting too cynical, but to me this might suggest they are actually trying to down play the issue by not giving the aviation press enough time to cover the story fully.
Judging by the widespread unease circulating around on the Internet Forums, the VTTS have perhaps also underestimated the depth of feeling, which seems to revolve around the project.
Another thought, have they been forced to release the statement at this time by the Heritage Lottery Fund who is perhaps getting nervous about the project?
It will be interesting to see how it is all covered in the aviation magazines, which will be out shortly.
An interesting comment on the VTTS message board last night from Felicity Irwin [VTTS Fund Raising].
“Everything possible is being done to keep things ‘alive’ and please be assured that all monies donated since the moment we had real doubts have been put into a special account. So no chance of fraud! Yes we need substantial support and it may still be there. Meanwhile every little helps.”
See link below for full text, bottom post on April 20th @ 20.43
http://www.tvoc.co.uk/cgi-local/board/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=1;t=22;st=10
Sea Venom FAW.21 WW217 [not on original list] to Newark – now a National Benchmark aircraft on the National Aviation Heritage Register [NAHR].
Avro Ashton fueslage WB491 to Newark via BAe Woodford – Significant airframe on NAHR.
TT,
Sounds like you are already doing much of what’s needed for Registration i.e. records, receipts etc.
I know the ‘muggins’ feeling well, but with a sympathetic Curatorial Advisor on board you should consider the jump with Registration, it can be very rewarding. I’m sure that EMMLAC would be supportive.
Not sure about HLF and the need to be a Registered Charity, I thought a properly constituted body was all that was required, although the charitable status perhaps helps.
Even charitable status is not the be all and end all as problems can still arise if you do not follow Charity Law and keep your returns up to date with the Charity Commission!
Keep up the good work and further enhance the reputation of your group.
Here’s a thought less time on the Forum and more time on the paperwork! 😉
For both of us me thinks! 🙂