A and DI don’t think this news is true . The Indians decided to go for the MMRCA ( Rafael) knowing fully well that they have signed up for the T 50 & have already paid billions to the Russians. The contract for the purchase of the Rafael has been postponed by a year due to their ongoing economic problems & a forthcoming national election.
A and Dcould the su-35 carry two brahmos?
That’s a cop out . The SU 35 is meant for air superiority not for targeting assets on the ground ( though it’s a secondary role for the SU 35) .
Even if it has to carry the mini BRAHMOS that would require airframe re enforcement .
The SU 34 is a more likely candidate .
A and DUpgraded BARS radar has been in the Cards for quite some time now..
The Indian Air Force was supposed to get AESA for the Super Sukhoi & had also stated that a couple of times.
Aviation Week too had reported it . Unfortunately , I could not find that link .
A and DSu-30SM delivered to Lipetsk:
The SU 30 SM/MKI makes sense for countries like Indonesia , India and other such 3rd world countries who cannot afford both the SU 35 & SU 34 . In their case it’s a question of getting a bang for your buck and they use the SU 30 MK in both air superiority & ground attack role .
I simply fail to understand why RuAF would want the SU 30 SM when they already operate the SU 35 ?
A and DRadar, upgraded Bars.
Meaning no AESA on the Super 30 ?
A and DNo way either ‘Super 30’ or Su-34 can carry 2 BrahMos, btw.
Yes, that’s why the Indians are working on a “mini BRAHMOS” . Which will be carried by the Super 30 , MIG 29K and probably even the Rafale .
SU 34 will not have any BRAHMOS on board . Sukhoi was initially unwilling to even fit the SU 30MKI with the BRAHMOS as UAC & BRAHMOS are two separate business entity that do NOT have any MoU in place .
A and DThe ‘heart’ of the BINS-SP2 (БИНС-СП2) RLG S-INS system developed by the Moscow Institute of Electromechanics & Automation for the Su-35S & T-50:
Should be a combo of satellite receiver ,laser gyro and quartz accelerometers . Would be interesting to find out what it’s endurance would be like .
A and DUnder this program the SU 30 MKI of the IAF will be converted into formidable MRCAs called Super Sukhoi .
Under the program Irkut will redesign the SU 30 MKI in such a way that they are transformed from Air Dominance aircrafts to air supremacy aircrafts . The upgrades,will include the strengthening and service life-extension of the Su-30MKI airframes , installation of uprated turbofans, new glass cockpit avionics, mission management avionics, and integrated defensive aids suites. Deliveries are expected to begin from 2015 through 2018 for the first batch of SUper Sukhois .
The Super Sukhoi airframe strengthening programme when completed, will enable each of the Super Sukhois to carry two 290km-range underwing BrahMos supersonic multi-role (land-attack and maritime strike) cruise missiles (which itself is presently undergoing a weight reduction program), and also include two uprated Lyulka AL-31FP turbofans. The AL-31FP, presently rated at 126kN with afterburning, will offer 20% more power when uprated by NPO Saturn—its manufacturer–and will have a total technical service life of 6,000 hours, instead of the present 2,000 hours.
The glass cockpit avionics package, is currently being developed by Avionica MRPC and Tekhnocomplex Scientific and Production Centre . It will include new-generation hands-on-throttle-and-stick (HOTAS) controls made by KB Aviaavtomatika, panoramic active-matrix liquid crystal displays, and a compact OLS infra-red search-and-track sensor developed by Urals Optical & Mechanical Plant. The mission management avionics package will include dual redundant core avionics computers developed by DRDO and Defence Avionics Research Establishment (DARE) ( in collaboration with Cassidian , Germany) and will be built by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). The integrated defensive aids suite,will include the AAR-60(V)2 MILDS F missile approach warning system, the EW management computer and Tarang Mk3 radar warning receiver , a countermeasures dispenser, a reusable fibre-optic ABRL active radar towed-decoy using suppression,TsNIRTI-developed expendable active electronic decoys, deception and seduction techniques, and an internal EW suite supplied by Elettronica of Italy (the same suit used in the MiG-29UPG).
The principal on-board mission management avionics components of the Super Sukhois will be the multi-mode MIRES X-band active electronically steered-array (AESA) multi-mode radar (MMR), developed and built by V Tikhomirov Scientific-Research Institute of Instrument Design along with Ryazan Instrument-Making Plant Federal State Unitary Enterprise, and modular L-band and S-band transmit/receive (T/R) modules that will be housed within the Su-30MKI’s forward wing and wing-root sections, as well as on the vertical tail sections. The MIRES, using the back-end elements of the Su-30MKI’s existing NO-11M Bars PESA-based MMR, will be able to simultaneously perform up to five ‘core’ functions, comprising look-up and shoot-up; look-down and shoot-down; directional jamming of hostile data-links; real-beam ground mapping via Doppler-beam sharpening in the inverse synthetic aperture radar (ISAR) mode; and ground moving target indication.
The AMLCD configuration is derived from what was originally designed for the Su-35.Other new-generation avionics to be installed on the Super Sukhoi will include the RAM-1701AS radio altimeter, TACAN-2901AJ and DME-2950A tactical air navigation system combined with the ANS-1100A VOL/ILS marker, CIT-4000A Mk12 IFF transponder, COM-1150A UHF standby comms radio, UHF SATCOM transceiver, and the SDR-2010 SoftNET four-channel software-defined radio (working in VHF/UHF and L-band for voice and data communications), and the Bheem-EU brake control/engine/electrical monitoring system, all of which have been developed in-house by the Hyderabad-based Strategic Electronics R & D Centre of Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL). The digital air data computers and flight data recorders and their automated test benches will be supplied by Bengaluru-based SLN Technologies Pvt Ltd.
For air dominance operations the upgraded Super Sukhoi will be armed with two types of new-generation air combat missiles from Vympel JSC: the RVV-MD within-visual-range missile, and the RVV-SD beyond-visual-range missile.As for new-generation air-to-ground PGMs as and when they become available from Russia or elsewhere, depending on the operational reqmts, they will be easily integrated with the Super Sukhoi’s navigation-and-attack system due to its open-architecture design.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_super-sukhois-to-give-india-a-generation-leap_1590530
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/on-the-anvil-5th-generation-super-sukhois/20110908.htm
http://www.defencenow.com/news/279/indias-su-30-mki-to-be-upgraded-to-super-sukhoi-by-russia.html
A and DR U sure about being “made of overwhelming metallic skin”?*
Not 100% but nonetheless at first look that’s what it seems .
Nope, most of the surface area is composites. -1,-2 (after retrofit) and -4 have middle section out of metal, but i guess that will be reversed at some point.
From the surface finish 054 seems to have more composites than 051 going by the high resolution pics that are available .
A and DWe should have some sort of ban on David Axe stories….
This poster is a certified troll and needs to be banned as well.
A and Dthe number of prototype/pre-production machines is set to more than double from the current 4, and if you include ‘Type 30’ verification- I’d say around another 6 years.
I suspect that would include the prototypes for the Indians as well . It will be interesting to see if there are major changes that are brought about to the airframe as the Indians are convinced that they need a platform that is more stealthy even if they have to pay a penalty on manoeuvrability .
In case of the T-50 PAK-FA , prototypes that were on display in MAKS 2013 , the existing airframe skin is made overwhelmingly of revetted metalic skin, but that is not what the Indians want in all likelihood. The Indian PAK FA will therefore be distinctly different in external appearance since its airframe skin, inclusive of the canards & tailfins, will all be built of radar-absorbent composites-based materials similar to what they have been doing with their LCA MK I .
Superlatives fail me:
You can say that again .
A and DHowever, modification of epoxy binders with CNTs of 25-30nm in length results in an interlaminar strength increase of ~30% (i.e. 85-90MPa). Combined with operating temperatures of ~200°C, the significance of Lots 4, 5 & 6 in the link above, is self evident.
Makes sense . This has the potential to increase crack & impact resistance without decreasing the glass transition temp. However, it hinges on the concurrent increase in the amount of thermoplast .
A and DThe primary advantage of using PMC is weight savings of 10 to 60 percent over metal designs, with 20 to 30 percent being typical.A pound of weight
saved on an aircraft is worth $100 to $300 over its service life, depending on the price of fuel, among other factors.
Additional advantages of PMCs are their superior fatigue and corrosion resistance, and vibration-damping properties.
A and D5th-generation fighter plan hits hurdle as Russia hikes cost
A and DIt is worth mentioning that a data-link has been muted for ASRAAM on and off over the years. Currently the work involved developing CAMM is the most likely path to that happening.
The Typhoon needs missiles that has the 10µ-technology currently available on the PARS 3LR . The 10µ-technology is revolutionary in itself .
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