I think Aer Lingus will do very well on these routes. The London times are certain to pick up a shed load of business travellers from City. The very fact that they are using BA as a partner for onward connectins coupled with the sensible late arrival time into International will surely tempt. The ones that should be worried is Easyjet. The Amsterdam has been left to bumble along and Aer Lingus having KLM as a partner ,coupled again wioth the early departure ,will turnit from a smokers special into a sensible business option.This will also eat into Bmi,s customer base. Interesting times:)

Spot on – BMI had better look to their laurels, on which they have been resting complacently for far too long.

Talk about a sterile discussion.

This one should have been axed by the mods several ice ages ago…

Do you mean 1936, or 1939…

Edit: Nevermind, you meant 1936. September 1939 was when the Anson concucted the first RAF attack on a German U-Boat. Significant, but FAR outweighed by what the Anson did in September 1936. I won’t give it away, except to say it was…”Courageous” 😀

Indeed it was.

I’m surprised nobody else seems to have thought about this hugely significant matter.

I’m off on holiday for a while now, so I’m very happy for you to enlighten the poor strugglers if they persist with their struggles…

Ok you guys. There is a totally unforgivable, glaring omission from this thread.
Here is your clue:

Avro Anson

….. ??

If you think about it, the most successful 1960s fighters weren’t the OR 329 studies, the XF-108, or the CF-105, but the Mirage III, MiG-21, and F-4. Each of these designs were the product of evolution, not revolution, and none of them had the pure speed, height or hugely complex weapons systems of those cancelled fighters. They were first and foremost practical, utilitarian designs.

Not sure what we are to accept as ‘successful’. Numbers produced, is that it?
Does that necessarily mean that these particular machines were actually any better than the ‘what ifs’ and the ‘if onlys’ could have been, had they seen the light of day?

The problem is: we’ll never know.

For sure, to take issue with you, some ‘revolutionary’ birds did see service – F104, Lightning, F-111 etc – and performed reasonably well.

Well I assume that you are pointing towards some ideological reason, but this paticular bird just never seems to get the attention of its more famous would have been stablemates. In that sense it is kind of like the Supermarine Type-545, (if anyone has any information or pictures on that I would be very grateful).

Oh indeed I’m ‘pointing towards some ideological reason’ – the petty detail that Blue Streak and your bird were both killed off by a Tory Government, a small but significant fact which sits rather uneasily with many ‘aviation enthusiasts’ more than somewhat skewed viewing of history.

I apologise to you for the digression. Just couldn’t help it! I’m not too well up on the subject – any good links you can give me? This is an era which I remember quite a bit and, being a woman, I object to your having posted it in the historic aviation forum!!!