Comparing F-16 Block 50/52+ or F-18E/F to Rafale/Typhoon is like comparing an upgraded F-4 Phantom with F-15E. Of course they lost — they’re fundamentally older and inferior platforms. Take politics and value-for-money out of the game (as MMRCA Phase I did) and the older jets — incl. MiG-35 — don’t stand a chance.
How can India build a carrier when they don’t even know how arrows are meant to work? 😉
AFAIK the USA does not recognise any Antarctic claims, & I think that is also true of China, Russia & many other countries.
Even more reason to have the ability to back one’s claims with military capabilities. Obviously this is hardly a pressing issue, I merely suggest it as a long-term consideration for Argentinean force planning.
The most technologically advanced military in the history of mankind would beg to differ.
Govt industries with guaranteed salaries and no fear of termination for non performance can never compete with private entities where it is basically succeed or perish.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to walk you through all the ways in which the market for top-level military hardware (aircraft, engines, large warships, etc.) fails to correspond to the fantasy world of ECON 101, so I’ll just leave off with this observation: you really think that ‘succeed or perish’ is an accurate characterisation of Lockheed Martin and the F-35 program? There aren’t enough rolleyes on the board.
Since 2009, SIPRI shows transfers to Sri Lanka of —
2 x Y-12 light transport aircraft (China)
2 x Bell 412 helicopters (USA)
6 x Super Dvora fast patrol boats (Israel)
The fault can no longer be corrected. The utilisation rates are way higher than predicted, the replacement projects are taking longer and are more costly, the only think on schedule is the refusal to take in new legacy airplanes to keep the fleet from getting too old. Only hard cuts can give the Air Force the budget flexibility need to modernize.
Yep. The steadfast refusal of the services, Pentagon, Congress, etc. to face reality and make the necessary budgetary, institutional, and force structure changes are all that stand in the way of the United States’ meeting the challenges of the 21st century. “We have met the enemy and they is us.”
I don’t see any basis in that, or specifically invoking India to make that conclusion, both of them were qualifying contenders (the only qualifying contenders), and Rafale won on L1 basis.
That’s the official story, sure.
BTW this website is Jon Lake’s pro-typhoon propaganda outlet. There isn’t enough salt in the sea to read it as it should be read.
Nic
I did like this line from Jon Lake on MMRCA:
“For the Indians it’s all about credibility [….] If they believe what the Typhoon consortium told them, then by 2018 Typhoon will do everything that Rafale does now. But they clearly don’t believe it, and I don’t blame them.”
One Argentine interest not given much attention here is the Antarctic, which could well become a point of economic (and therefore political) interest over the course of the century.
The idea that you can run top-level military industry on free market principles is hilariously dumb. The Americans can only play at it on account of their enormous domestic market, and even then it doesn’t actually work very well. Remember that interview a little while back with that new guy from the Pentagon JSF office, talking about how his staff had to go through Lockheed Martin and sweep out all the cobwebs? 😉
Integration means the beginning of the end. Just look at the EU. I’m only talking military alliance & cooperation.
Nic
So … basically you want a South American NATO despite the complete absence of a military threat to justify it?
The real external problems for the region (which are dwarfed by internal problems as everywhere else) are economic predations from international corps in USA, China, Europe etc. and all of that sort of thing is best addressed by ongoing integration projects such as UNASUR.
EDIT: If you’re merely suggesting that South American nations cooperate on development, acquisitions and maintenance facilities and so forth, then sure, and that stuff is already going on. Look at KC-390, Argentine/Brazil cooperation with A-4 Skyhawks, etc.
Brazil is already the regional power, what else do you want ?
Nicolas10 is right there — USA is still the regional power in South America.
Problem is he is an idiot in a high position in government and technically 2IC.
And former PM to boot.
Seems to me this is an historical/political/cultural question more than a military one. Probably more to be folded into questions regarding the potential furthering of South American integration extending UNASUR, e.g. common currency, etc.
Thanks for the pics. Can’t wait to see Rafale/Gripen/SH in those awesome Brazilian colours!
My favourite from the set:
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That is where you are so very wrong.
What you are saying is the new politically correct bs that politicians who do not fight in wars use.The point of war is, always has been and always will be to kill as many enemies as possible, as quickly as possible, so they can never attack again.
Failure to do that means the war is never over and will never be won.
History since WWII proves this out.
You’re a ******* moron.