If it is desired/especially if RuNavy goes for it, naval PAK-FA will be available ~2020
I doubt that it is even possible to adapt PAK FA for carrier operations.
LMFS designed from the outset for carrier operations is a perfect match for both Russia and India, to go with new CATOBAR carriers entering service mid-2020s. Until then MiG-29K will suffice just fine — both nations have more than enough work to do without rushing to field NAVAL FIVE GEEE ASAP.
I think there is something quite revealing in the fact that this budget — delivered by a dead government — is the most responsible we’ve seen in some time.
India can develop a 2-seat FGFA if it wants to; IAF would rather adopt path of less risk/cost and have the aircraft in service earlier.
In the long-run many things could happen. By 2030 we could see Su-34-like variant to replace e.g. Indian Navy Su-30s and remaining Russian Backfires. I seriously doubt Su-50A (or whatever) is going to be the end of the story for either Russia or India.
Apparently there’s issues with certification for flying in European/German airspace due to lack of certain key systems such as autonomous collision avoidance systems. And it means loss of $1 billion made in investment.
Serves them right for not backing domestic industry.
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I know the P-8I has “some” Indian content. Yet, I’ve heard nothing about a downgraded radar??? Do you have a source???
Hmm Google reveals claims that the radar is ‘customised’ rather than downgraded. Well, whatever. The point remains that there are definitely sovereignty issues associated with F-35. India is unlikely to be granted the same level of access as e.g. UK and we know even that doesn’t cover source codes.
Then I would say none are real options to equip the Indian Aircraft Carriers.
Umm, ok then. You can persist in your fantasy of F-35 for India if you like.
I have my doubts about that………..What about India and the P-8I. It must be full of the latest US Technology.
The P-8I has Indian communications gear and a downgraded radar.
Also, the AMCA has been put off and I’ve heard no word about Naval Variants of the former nor any “Evolved Rafale”. Which, is not to say that either isn’t true. Do you have a source and what is the LMFS Joint Program with Russia???
AMCA has been put ‘on hold’ and I think rightly so — not least of all because there was no indication of it being designed with carrier capability in mind, when the program is otherwise perfectly aligned with that requirement.
LMFS is a rumoured Russian medium fighter project to replace MiG-29 and serve on future Russian carriers. If it goes ahead then it will target the exact same requirements as India has and it would make good sense to engage in joint program as alternative to AMCA. India’s powerplant technology requirements could potentially be satisfied under such a program also.
Evolved Rafale would build off proposals already floating around … CFTs, 9t engines, reshaped inlets, stealth pods, etc.
India won’t even sign CISMOA and you think they’re going to sacrifice enough sovereignty to make F-35 a viable proposition? Not likely. Add to that the increasing focus on domestic industry development — also a non-starter with F-35 — and the notion becomes entirely fanciful.
The top candidates for future carrier-based aircraft are AMCA variant, LMFS joint program with Russia, or evolved Rafale. And of course UAVs/UCAVs to fill in the gaps…
Not that it would surprise anyone here. Yet, I believe India’s only real option is the F-35C or F-35B.
Good luck with that.
If it is true about BS’ being next, then RuAF prefer the upgraded radar over having IFR.
No surprise there given the shortage of tankers…
P.S. Any future plans to address that?
The presence of what appears to be an afterburner on recent images of Chinese UCAV have led some to speculate that the aircraft is intended to include a supersonic attack profile. So far as I am aware this is an approach as yet unexplored in American and European UCAV programs and is therefore well within the purview of this thread as representing a distinctively Chinese way of war.
No love for Normandie-Niemen? :confused:
F-22 vs F-14? They were even tried one vs the other?
Not yet. 😉
My question is whether F100/110 is at the same tech level of F414/M88/EJ200 and their proposed developmental variants, or whether it would require significantly more investment from Turkey to bring it up to that level, if that is even possible.
F135 in its present form would seem foolish given that it is a very different design tailored for F-35B lift system. Might F119 be available?
To my mind Kashmir and the middle east both suffer from an over abundance of religion. Take the religions away and the problems would follow i suspect.
In both cases it is one religion that is somewhat more aggressive (at present, by which i mean the last 50 years) in it’s extremes than others.
Alas I disagree almost entirely with this sentiment. I think that beneath most apparently religious conflicts you will find other, more worldly concerns. The Crusades are a typical example: beneath the superficial narrative of Christians attempting to take Jerusalem from the infidels one finds a variety of worldy concerns: economic interests on the part of Genoa, Venica; the desire to export the violence then endemic to Northern and Central France elsewhere, and the contest for both religious and secular authority between Rome and Constantinople as guardians of Christianity and heirs to the Roman empire. Certainly there many individuals who were sincerely motivated by their faith, but they do not explain the historical events. And so it is for most apparent contemporary clashes between religions. Nigeria is perhaps the most worrying long-term hotspot: up to 400 million people split 50/50 between Muslim north and Christian south, but to characterise the tensions there as basically religious in character is to ignore how the arrangement came about in the first place: how the British virtually nailed together three different cultures to produce the state of Nigeria, and ran the place through but one of them — a reliable recipe for happy endings as Rwanda, etc. demonstrates. The differences are fundamentally ethnic and cultural, not religious. This is not to suggest that religion plays no role in terrorism, political instability, and other worldly matters: it can unite otherwise disparate peoples in a sense of shared identity and injustice, and provides them with an elevated and universalist ideological discourse by which their actions can be justified. But religious faith, and differences between faiths, rarely create conflicts in and of themselves.
Graham Fuller’s book ‘A World Without Islam’ is a good casual read on this subject. It is advertised as being written by “the former Vice Chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA” — personally I think I would prefer to read the book written by Fuller the historian (which he is) but apparently the former characterisation generates better sales figures. :p