It’ll be sad day when the J-8II retires. One of the last plane with the slim lines of a supermodel, in an age of BBW fighters.

Eurocans — including upcoming Gripen E/F — J-10, JF-17, even Tejas Mk. 2 should be pretty slick…

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Contender has arrived!

The whole cheap JF17 thing hasn’t caught on with anyone,

I think it is far too early to say that.

yeah just like how the Chinese are waiting for the WS-10 engine for their J-10s.. oh wait..

The circumstances are hardly comparable.

But no I don’t think PLAAF will be inducting JF-17, they don’t need it anymore than USAF needed F-20.

I think this article from Livefist about says it all re: MiG-35 and MMRCA.

I’m a migrant myself but don’t expect the government to pump tons of cash into equal opportunity at the expense of services like health, education and defence

Political correctness marks the death knell of Western civilisation.

There is an irony in this statement: the renaming of departments of war to departments of defence is one of the most significant and pernicious developments in politically correct language ever to have occurred. The language came out of naïve internationalism amidst the ashes of Europe that declared the conduct of wars of aggression an evil that could no longer be tolerated. And if at first the language was merely naïve, it has since proven very useful for those seeking to obscure designs that they can no longer share openly — who can object to spending for the ‘defence’ of the nation? If we are honest with ourselves, the former name far more accurately reflects both the purpose of military forces and the actuality of their use as the extension of politics by other means.

Regarding India, I am increasingly of the opinion that AMCA should be placed on hold and indigenous efforts redirected to further development of Tejas platform coupled with ‘ground up’ investment in unmanned systems. In addressing both indigenous engine development and future medium combat aircraft needs, I believe Russia and its rumoured LMFS program provides the best solution.

LMFS (twin engine config) would enter service around 2030 to replace both IAF MiG-29 and Mirage 2000 and to provide the Indian Navy with a 5G+ carrier aircraft. In industrial terms, the engine technology would be the primary or even sole focus of India’s participation in the program and the goal would be to secure complete sovereignty in this respect, with shared future development options. The engine thereby obtained would be used not only in LMFS, but also in Tejas and X47-type UCAVs.

I didn’t get what the context of your post was or exactly what you were implying here..

He is saying that America will not provide assistance with state-of-the-art technologies leading to creation of a competitor for its own F-35 platform. And I agree, hence my own previous post.