I will not be surprised if Brazil does a Switzerland to Dassault later this year by choosing the lowest cost fighter.
I would be. Brazil’s contract is all about ToT and long-term ambition (incl. future carrier ops) as well. The Brazilian contract is much closer to India’s than Switzerland’s. India’s vote of confidence in Rafale should all but seal the deal in Brazil too I think.
India’s numbers of twin-seat FGFA fighters has now come down dramatically from what they wanted initially. The breakup is now 166 single seaters and 48 twin seaters.
Thanks for the info.
For the record I wasn’t attempting to impugn the A2A credentials of Su-30MKI or FGFA, merely objecting to the notion that India paid scant attention to A2A performance for MMRCA. If it was actually the case that India was looking first and foremost for a strike aircraft in MMRCA then Super Hornet would’ve made the shortlist rather than Typhoon!
Don’t see how FGFA is strike centric.
What else is that second seat for? Everyone else is comfortable with single-seat A2A even for heavy aircraft like F-22, Su-35, PAK FA, J-20. What makes India different? And it’s not like the second seat comes free.
So far as I can see the new-bid-for-80-planes thing is coming only from British officials attached to the embassy and as such can be considered mere wishful thinking until more independently sourced.
Commiserations to the Eurofighter camp (myself included), but it’s clear first and foremost the IAF wanted a state-of-the art, seasoned & formidable striker
Right … they wanted a strike-centric aircraft to supplement their strike-centric Su-30s, strike-centric FGFAs, Jaguars and MiG-27s. This ‘strike’ business is something of a national obsession for India, eh? :rolleyes:
But I sure hope they are lucky and the NG buy is cancelled. The majority of the voters is against it anyway.
And what do the majority of voters favour instead?
Somehow I don’t think China is in the business of underestimating India (and, incidentally, Russia) to quite the degree that many in the west do. Rafale is a significant acquisition for the IAF and MMRCA is an important step for India wrt indigenous industry and strategic independence. But don’t make it out to be more than it is. The sun rises tomorrow just as it did yesterday.
This is very good for Dassault of course but a win in UAE (60) and Switzerland (22) would have made Dassault much happier as these 82 fighters would be entirely manufactured in France.
In the short-term, maybe. In the long-term, India and Brazil are much more important both to the future of Rafale and to French interests more broadly.
Dassault shares highest in 22 years…
Rose more than 22% to the highest in 22 years. Hmm. Maybe, but the repeated number is suspicious. Particularly when the article goes on to tell us that the Rafale will be replacing Mirage 2Ks in Indian service. :rolleyes:
So you think Rafale is only as good as the J 10 B ?
:rolleyes: So sad coming from its great defender.
I think they are comparable platforms such that China will not feel any need to ‘respond’ to India’s acquisition of Rafale beyond continuing with the series of programs it already has in place. “Which one is better” doesn’t really enter into it.
Ok, so what does this mean for the regional balance in airpower between China and India? Are we likely to see some form of response from China over the next few years or is it a negligible impact on the regional balance?
Negligible impact I think. J-10B is China’s ‘answer’ to MMRCA and is already in the pipeline.
Gripen vs F 35
I will be torn
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Yeah … the aircraft that’s unnecessary on account of LCA vs. the aircraft that’s unnecessary on account of AMCA. Tough call that one.
Undisputable evidence that the Rafale is the best combat aircraft ever built. Ever.
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And that ever will be built!
On closer reading obligatory, those comments are from British officials.
the defense ministry was now considering buying another 80 or so jets and could invite bidders excluded from the current process to take partβ¦
Oh for ****’s sake. Even India couldn’t seriously be entertaining the idea of adding yet another platform to the mix.
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