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  • in reply to: Nukes and the UK's Role on the Global Stage #1795067
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    Well to answer one of your questions – surely it WAS a deterrent for the Soviet Union – just as Soviet nukes were for the west?
    That was the whole argument of Mutually Assured Destruction.

    The difficulty with this argument is that the United States was already providing a comprehensive deterrent against potential Soviet aggression in the form of both conventional and nuclear forces, to which the UK’s nukes constituted a trifling addition.

    Indeed, in the real world we know that the British nuclear program, far from being a manifestation of the Special Relationship™ as claimed by Carter, was in fact driven by the desire to maintain Britain’s independence from the United States and its security guarantees. This may have been (and may be) an entirely sensible objective, but it is not one that allows or helps the UK to “play an outsize role on the global stage” — it merely ensures that the UK remains on the stage and able to function as an independent actor.

    I would also wager that after the Black Buck raids and the sinking of the Belgrano, the Argentinian Junta were suddenly very mindful of the UK’s nuclear capability – especially as it was Mrs T’s finger hovering over the button.

    Surely the risk of nuclear attack for Argentina was not when they were already reeling from the imposition of British power (non-nuclear, you may note) but rather in the event that they succeeded in repelling the British counter-attack and/or sinking much of the task force? In this context the function of nuclear weapons (directed at, one assumes, Beunos Aires, or the Falklands themselves, or both) would be to deny Argentina victory and salvage British pride.

    And today? Well I bet fat Kim in North Korea knows exactly who has, and doesn’t have such a capability

    I’m sure he does, but not for the reasons you imagine. Undoubtedly the North Korean leadership has observed that neither the United States nor anyone else has ever threatened the survival of a nuclear-armed nation. Indeed, this points to the real utility of nuclear weapons as being most useful for weak states that, in the presence of a credible threat, are unable to guarantee their security by conventional means: North Korea, Iran, Israel, Pakistan, perhaps India. Paradoxically, it is the Big Five nuclear powers — those with the most comprehensive nuclear arsenals — that are today least in need of nuclear weapons.

    I suppose the question back would be – would you feel safer NOT having a nuclear capability?

    Well, I live in a country that lacks a nuclear capability, and I’m pretty comfortable with that. Certainly if Australia were to choose to develop nuclear weapons, I don’t believe I would either feel safer or be safer as a result.

    in reply to: General Discussion #226240
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    I have never heard anyone compare Julian Assange to Martin Luther King. It is certainly the case that they were both detested by the same kinds of people, however, i.e. right-wing authoritarian nationalists. Will Assange’s reputation in official and polite society undergo the same kind of convenient post-mortem metamorphosis as that of Martin Luther King? Short of a revolution, I doubt it.

    And by convenient corollary we have one of the pieces of the puzzle to the question posed by the OP: because the past is either forgotten or distorted to serve the needs of (those in power in) the present.

    in reply to: Why Does the United Kingdom Try to be a 'Good' Country? #1795125
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    I have never heard anyone compare Julian Assange to Martin Luther King. It is certainly the case that they were both detested by the same kinds of people, however, i.e. right-wing authoritarian nationalists. Will Assange’s reputation in official and polite society undergo the same kind of convenient post-mortem metamorphosis as that of Martin Luther King? Short of a revolution, I doubt it.

    And by convenient corollary we have one of the pieces of the puzzle to the question posed by the OP: because the past is either forgotten or distorted to serve the needs of (those in power in) the present.

    in reply to: General Discussion #226431
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    If only Michael Deacon were as conscientious when it came to the name and function of certain other state organs. The Ministry of Defence, say.

    But then I’ve always found it amusing how one of the earliest, clearest, and most significant examples of Orwellian language and Political Correctness passes without objection from the kinds of folks who are forever railing against such things.

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1795289
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    If only Michael Deacon were as conscientious when it came to the name and function of certain other state organs. The Ministry of Defence, say.

    But then I’ve always found it amusing how one of the earliest, clearest, and most significant examples of Orwellian language and Political Correctness passes without objection from the kinds of folks who are forever railing against such things.

    in reply to: Indian Navy news thread #2016779
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    Some great pics from the International Fleet Review 2016

    gallery link

    Thanks for the link, it’s great to see high quality photos of Indian hardware/personnel/etc. for a change. Unfortunately there are several obviously photoshopped images in the “photo gallery” which makes me wonder about this one too, which would otherwise by my favourite:

    http://i.imgur.com/j4Z1JGw.jpg

    Also, are these anti-submarine rockets that are being fired?

    http://i.imgur.com/OT40LMV.jpg

    in reply to: General Discussion #226661
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    Whiteboards ? The language of the ‘left’. Similar to ‘headteacher’ rather than the more directly correct; ‘headmaster’ or, ‘headmistress’. In the language of the ‘left’, ‘blackboard’ is to be avoided.

    I can’t tell if this is satire or not.

    in reply to: Interesting News Snippets #1795487
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    Whiteboards ? The language of the ‘left’. Similar to ‘headteacher’ rather than the more directly correct; ‘headmaster’ or, ‘headmistress’. In the language of the ‘left’, ‘blackboard’ is to be avoided.

    I can’t tell if this is satire or not.

    in reply to: General Discussion #226677
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    ‘Keep Trident and make up the cost through other cuts to the armed forces. Everybody wins!’

    There isn’t anything left to cut!

    I’m sure I could find something…. *sharpens knives*

    I’d start with anything that appeared more suited to neo-colonial adventures like Afghanistan and Iraq than protecting the fundamental security interests of the nation, i.e. territorial integrity, trade routes.

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    ‘Keep Trident and make up the cost through other cuts to the armed forces. Everybody wins!’

    There isn’t anything left to cut!

    I’m sure I could find something…. *sharpens knives*

    I’d start with anything that appeared more suited to neo-colonial adventures like Afghanistan and Iraq than protecting the fundamental security interests of the nation, i.e. territorial integrity, trade routes.

    in reply to: How many submarines? #2016809
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    11 or 12 I think, including the four Vanguard SSBNs. Not as many as they should have given the pre-eminent role of the Royal Navy in protecting the fundamental security interests of the nation.

    Too many neo-colonial adventures to undertake, you see…

    in reply to: General Discussion #226788
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    Keep Trident and make up the cost through other cuts to the armed forces. Everybody wins!

    Rii
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    Keep Trident and make up the cost through other cuts to the armed forces. Everybody wins!

    in reply to: General Discussion #227514
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    The United Kingdom tries to portray itself as a “good” country, both to itself and others, for the same reason no person considers himself a villain.

    Of course, history tells a rather different story from the myths the UK likes to tell itself, as it does for most nations.

    In any case I am sure China appreciates the prospect of the UK railing against and defying the tyranny of the UN, though — it will make their own defiance of a likely unfavourable UNCLOS ruling later this year rather less conspicuous.

    in reply to: Why Does the United Kingdom Try to be a 'Good' Country? #1796125
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    The United Kingdom tries to portray itself as a “good” country, both to itself and others, for the same reason no person considers himself a villain.

    Of course, history tells a rather different story from the myths the UK likes to tell itself, as it does for most nations.

    In any case I am sure China appreciates the prospect of the UK railing against and defying the tyranny of the UN, though — it will make their own defiance of a likely unfavourable UNCLOS ruling later this year rather less conspicuous.

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