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Oh how I love messy pprune spillovers…
There are currently 112 CRJs in storage according to my info, with one of them due for scrapping.
There are 13 ERJs in storage, mainly ex Rio-Sul ones being converted for use with the Brazilian Air Force in Porto Alegre.
And she was back in Farnborough this morning, drove past her sitting on the ramp a few hours ago!
The BAA keep saying different things, I’ve heard one day, a few months, and a total closure all from BAA sources. Who knows what they are actualy going to do with it!
Ahh lucky you, you got the new one! These live at Farnborough during the summer season and have just started to trickle back in, A6-HEH is a brand new one for the Air Wing for this season. They currently have 1 BBJ1, 3 BBJ2, and 1 319CJ operating across the governments. They also have even more very impressive 747s which usually live at Stansted and Heathrow, these should start making their regular appearances from about now too.
I think the current fleet number stands at 7 747s across the country.
Very soon if I’m not mistaken, haven’t orders been placed for new Airbus types for this very purpose ?
Correct, end of next year, beginning of 2008. In line with my argument above I would expect to see maybe one or two broken up for spares, however I think a few may still find good homes as the supply of parts increases and the value of the full airframe outvalues the parts value.
Aircraft lifespans are quite interesting things to analyse. If you view the total production run of the aircraft, and the average time which the aircraft are taken out of service, you will usually get a figure of between 20 and 30 years depending on a wide range of factors.
However increasingly so you will always find that the first aircraft to be taken out of service will be done so much earlier than the average, and the final aircraft to cease flying will be done so much later than the average.
At the moment we are seeing relatively new aircraft being taken out of service and scrapped. This is due to the low supply of original spare parts, making older aircraft more valuable as scrap than as a full flying aircraft. As an example the first A320 was scrapped last year, and 2 more are in the process of being scrapped now. Also in the last few days the first ever CRJ was also scrapped. Despite this, the average lifespan of these aircraft types will still be 10 or 15 years longer than the lifespan of these individual aircraft.
On the opposite end of the scale, there are still a limited number of classic aircraft, like Tristars flying about, well after their average life expectancy. This can usually be explained by the complex process of aircraft ownership. Basically however, after a certain point the cost of owning an aircraft decreases quite substantially, once all finance costs have been paid. For significantly older aircraft like Tristars, this means that they can change hands for virtually no cash. This in turn means that these aircraft can be acquired easily, and flown as much as possible until the cost of maintaining them becomes too great.
Therefore dont be surprised when comparitively new aircraft get broken up well before you expect, and also dont be surprised to see Tristars and DC10s flying for many more years.
Wow, your best line up yet Paul, and I’m not just saying that because of the nice array of biz in the pics 😀
Ooh nice, despite only living 5 minutes from Blackbushe I’ve never ventured up there other than driving past, great to see it covered once in a while.
Hope your having a good time mate!
I believe they are coming to the end of the certification process if not already there.
Maybe Evolve Air will start flights?
He almost typed that with a straight face.
There has been a huge amount of politics involved with these Moscow flights, not “just” at government level either, within the airlines themselves. I think we’ll have to wait another ten years for Michael Bishop to write his memoirs before we have any idea what really happened.
As for the opt out clause, that has been in the contract since I think 1999 or maybe earlier so really isnt anything new. Take just a brief look at pprune, and you will see that bmi is clearly currently the airline of choice to be focused on as the “problem child” at the moment.
History has shown that breaking away from a franchise arrangement rarely works out for the Franchisee, Duo, and Independence Air are the two examples that spring to mind.
Anyway, Loganair still have two more years to think things over!