It looks nothing like me !!!!:confused:
but probably worth more!:)
Hi there – thats a Harvard IIB spade grip matey – dont get your hopes up for a Spit one… in nice order too – bloomin good job you didnt bin it –
worth £2-300!
TT
Thanks for that….. glad I didnt bin it! 🙂
Not to interested in Harvards though (is anyone)! but it might be of use to someone out there!
Mad as a hatter.
Yet another ebay clown… what’s next Stuka undercarriage levers, or Meteor propeller blades!:)
Vince…I have tried to e-mail or pm you but they bounce back. Andy
Andy, problem was my end, its fixed now so fire away!
Oh, thats strange …i will try to work out what the problem is! But in the mean time it might be easier to PM me!
vince
Yes was the first in 6 years, I had to go to another field elsewhere, I was looking for something 🙂
I also like looking in fields…the last one i looked in, you was in it!
Gentleman – you are not taking this seriously.
Get professional. http://www.earlex.co.uk/html/menus_html/steam.htm
Mark
Nice one! Well i could have done with one of those steam strippers! Strippers, now that a topic for the forum, after all we have seen it all on here!
Seriously folks i lost the topic of this thread a long while ago, but it all makes good reading! 🙂
Gentleman – you are not taking this seriously.
Get professional. http://www.earlex.co.uk/html/menus_html/steam.htm
Mark
Nice one! Well i could have done with one of those steam strippers! Strippers, now that a topic for the forum, after all we have seen it all on here!
Seriously folks i lost the topic of this thread a long while ago, but it all makes good reading! 🙂
Well Peter
If you really want to know and you seem so keen to find out I will tell you :
I actually spent most of the time the programme was broadcast, on the phone to Vince Megicks discussing the finer points of Wallpaper stripping, a task he was fully undertaking at the time, to which I had a 5 litre can of gloss which I contemplated applying and watching it dry, a fact of which he will be happy to concur for you, if you require proof I am sure he can send you the copy of his phone bill with a very lengthy call to me on it, other ex members were similarly absent from their viewing areas.
Hi Tim & Peter,
Yes, i have to put my hands up to stripping the old wall paper off! ,But a lengthy phone call with our junkcollector Tim, did take my mind off those awkward places you cant always seem to get the scrapper into!!
Thanks for that Vince. Please dont take this as a criticism of your point but rather as a clarification! Fact is, we didnt KNOW it was a Mk IX but suspected it may well be. The point that may have been missed in the programme is that contemporary local records are thin or non existant in France. In the UK we often have ARP, Police, RAF and other reports to identify the precise identity but in France it is very hit and miss with almost total reliance on 60 year old plus memories, often second or third hand!! In the case of the Bostock “dig”, it was a case of excavating to eliminate it as Bader’s, as with the Misseldine crash site. Dilip also excavated a site that equally could have been Baders, but turned out not to be. We felt we had to excavate the Bostock site….just in case! Imagine if someone else dug there later and it WAS Bader’s?! The whole digging thing was just a process of elimination….proving it wasnt Baders rather than that it was! As for MBV’s comments, viewers didnt see the edited out bits of the early stage of the dig which would not have made for very interesting TV. He can rest assured that the shallow scatter was looked at. The people involved DO know what they are doing. They wouldnt cope too well with Roman pottery, but then I am not sure how many aircraft recoveries MBV has been on?? Just an observation! Andy Saunders
Hi Andy, no Critism taken, I should have really left this one for you to answer in the first place! I needed to get our point across that we wouldn’t have procceeded with the recovery if we had any doubts that human remains could have been present.
Hope this clears it up.
Vince
Might have missed something here…did you guys know it was the Mk9 you were digging? If you did why did the TV allow the dig to go ahead if it wasnt Bade’s spit ? If you didnt is there not a danger that human remains could have been involved and as such compromised by the JCB?
please dont take this as criticism I have the greatest admiration for the work being done by so many selfless volunteers…. its purely a tech query..i am aware of the probs inthe UK in the past with digs finding remains.
Yes we knew it was a mk9 Spitfire, and who the pilot was before we went in with the machine. So no there wasnt the slightest chance we would find human remains.
vince
Well thanks for that update on your view of the digging world, if you boys were to recover this aircraft we would never get to see it with the speed you work at. Well its not like digging up a roman pot is it that is fragile and unbroken!!! this would have hit the ground at 450mph
Treasure hunters thats a good one, think you better pick the treasure hunter detector book if you want to view a few of those. All these sites are now recorded and if you should know and a report has to be complied to be returned to the local SMR
SPOT ON GARETH, THIS GUY SHOULD APPLY FOR A JOB WITH TIME TEAM!
Well MBV, you raise some valid points, the operation had a designated Health and Safety Officer from Wildfire TV, who is a professional archaeologist, he oversaw the whole operation.
As for excavation, the use of a digger is necessary due to the depth and as you rightly say instability of the walls, an operation like this is usually very time constrained and only has a few hours to go.
As for remains we would not have touched the wreck had we known there was any present.
Regards
Tim
HI TIM, HAVING NOT PERSONALLY SEEN THE PROGRAMME TONIGHT, SO ONLY GOING ON MY MEMORIES OF THE EXCAVATION, I THINK YOUR COMMENTS TO MBV ARE PERFECTLY CORRECT. THE RECOVERY WAS CARRIED OUT IN A TOTALLY PROFFESIONAL MANNER.
VINCE
For the record, and for the avoidance of doubt, ALL of the team worked hard. They were, in no particular order, Peter Dimond, Paul Cole, Richard Barnstable, Vince Megicks, Gareth (sorry…mental blank on your name but its 1.30am!!), Simon Parry, Tim Davies, Philippa Wheeler, Peter Arnold…did I forget anyone? Shame that a minority (two or three) of you have become disgruntled but I hope it can be rectified. I will respond to your particular gripes on the morrow. Thank you one and all. Unreservedly. Andy Saunders
Thanks for your kind words Andy, and the missing surname is actually Jones!
I bet you got sore fingers!