Meaningless statement.

‘Best’ means absolutely nothing in this context.

Moggy

Could you clarify exactly what youre trying to say. This thread is about favorite planes in Il-2. My favorites are the russian fighters which I think have been overlooked by sims for a long time. There are no American, German, British or Japaneese fighters that could match their climb and their maneuverability. A few of the late war powerhouses like the Sea Fury, Ta-152, Mustang could out do them with speed, but not by much. They were better than any WW2 fighter in all around dogfighting, especially the Yak-3 which german pilots were ordered to avoid engaging, and run from. Its a well deserved honor for these fighters to be in such a high quality sim, and its a previlage to be able to fly them with such realistic flight physics.
I suppose youre going to go on about how this is “hearsay” because I havent actually flown these planes.

Jonsey- I just want to mention that British and American SSNs were designed to the cold war doctrine of fighting the entire expanse of the worlds oceans for a long period of time as had happened during WW2. The dont carry enough torpedoes or mines to do a intensive coastal offensive like youre describing.

Ive got it, its ok, but the graphics are very simplistic. I would definately opt for Rowans BoB as that has much better graphics. There is another sim called Dogfight: Battle of the Pacifac which also has simple graphics, but better quality artistically. It has the advantage of being able to fly bombing missions in a divebomber. One thing it has in common with History Channel BoB is that you have a target redicule in front of the enemy aircraft showing you where to lead your shots. There is also a WW1 sim called Wings of War again with simple but high quality graphics. The flight physics are really bad to the point of being very arcadeish, but its still nice for anyone who likes WW1 planes.

I wrote Su-39, the newer upgraded version of the Su-25 Frogfoot. I argee Mexico buying Su-27/30/34 etc, Flankers would be an overkill. I have to look up the specs on the PC-9s but the newer Su-25/39 Frogfoot can reach around 600 MPH. Air crews could train on the 2 seat UB models and cross right over into the same aircraft in a active squadron. From what I read $9 or $10 million is a rough price for an aircraft that could perform many roles for Mexico’s air force including anti-shipping. I know finding an anti-shipping platform isn’t on the top of Mexico’s most important list right now but can’t hurt to have it. Finding a F-5 replacement won’t be easy the old jet does a lot and keeps ticking. I’m including a link on the Su-25/39 Frogfoot aircraft but I’m sure you know of it by Su-25 name.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/attack/su25/

The Su-39 has horribly short range, that alone will kill the idea for Mexicos large patrol areas. Its also too much jet for simple drug intercept missions, a L-159 would be much cheaper to operate. And with 75 PC-9s, Mexico pretty much has CAS covered much more economically than with a handfull of Su-39s

I’m not sure what Mexico uses their F-5s for. If the main reason is just general protection etc, I think used F-16s block 15/20 etc is fine. For running down drug runners I would think a F-16 might be a bit of an overkill.

All the F-5s are based around Mexico City to protect that vital area, and are not available for drug interdiction. Mexico is not able to intercept fast moving contacts with their PC-9s which is why I think its of highest priority to buy jets to replace the T-33 and PC-9 in this role. A fighter like the Su-35 is overkill for Mexicos defence needs, Mexico is just to far away from South America to worry about any entanglements.

hola mi amigo! i haven’t seen you post in a long time except in the armchair pilot wannabe forum! How goes the strawberry fields?

Hola Burger flipper. Im really only interested in low cost combat aircraft as an alternative to the latest american/euro stuff. So that only leaves me to talk about jet trainers, as fighters like the LCA and FC-1 are a long ways off.

Im glad you brought up Mexican labor as I do have special interest in that. The people who do that are usually native Mexicans who are the lowest in the social ladder under mixed race and european Mexicans. So niether the government nor the people of Mexico dont really knock themselves out to improving the situation for these people. But if the US were to legalize this kind of labor, they would actually have increased wage control as there would be more competition from neighboring Latin American countrys. As well as increased border security and improved working conditions.

I have noticed that patches and service packs are listed in the uninstall programs part of windows control panel. If you cant uninstall it there, its format time.