Having the entire male population of your country with some army training and knowledge about weapons and tactics means that if you are threatened by an outside force you don’t suddenly have amatures in the ranks… during WWII they had plenty of problems with new conscripts or even civilians working communications who would not realise that sending a truck load of 7.62 x 25mm ammo to the front line in 1941 would mean that a few officers with pistols would be well armed but the rest of the soldiers with rifles will not have any ammo that fit their rifles. (The Soldiers needing 7.62 x 54mm ammo for their rifles and machineguns). Equally as the example I gave above sending 122mm ammo to a Grad unit would also be a waste because Grad rocket launchers fire Grad rockets, not 122mm artillery shells.

Had we’ve been talking about “Isreal” they would have said the same thing you’re saying about ” Having the entire male population of your country with some army training and knowledge about weapons and tactics means that if you are threatened by an outside force you don’t suddenly have amatures in the ranks” but scince it’s Russia were talking about they like to say how bad/pathetic conscrips are, 😀 😀 I know how these yanks/yank tech lovers think man, it’s amasing the “fantastic” forgetfullness, explanations they come up with, just amasing.

How the hell do conscripts perform better the pro’s? Please please think before you type. Now a conscript with 1 year under his belt is going to be as good as a pro with perhaps anywhere from 3 to 20 years experience, i don’t think so and nor would anyone else in there right mind to be brutal about it. If all you can do is throw up red herrings about ‘picking on small nations’ ( Iraq is physically bigger then UK you know) i suggest you go back to school or the institute you came from before typing out more dross. Edit: i got my figures of Russian male deaths from the much vaunted Lancet, take it up with them if you don’t like the figures not with me.

Iraq is bigger, but militaraly England is more advanced, so you lose that one.
Like I said in my other posts those are nothing but anti-Military people in Russia saying those things, they can’t bring 4000 father/mothers with clear documentation thier 4000 sons have died, they’ll do what all these other disinformation groups do, get thier friends to come to rallies and make it “LOOK” like 4000 windows, go do more research and you’ll see, 4000 don’t die every year.

One every eighteen months? is that a fact or what Russia would like us to believe. Could be exageration to make us think they have more than they have or could be understatement to lull us into a false sense of security.

Russia has already luled U.S. into a false sense of security going on 48 years now. All those Missile test failers and false starts of the Su-35/PAK-FA programs are in my opinion “Disinformation” to make the west (think) “Russia is blunndering again”

You said;

“Yeah just like those F-15’s that have cause the ENTIRE grounding of ALL F-15’s“

Well I miss-read it was F-15 A-D and what’s the big deal, uh, because I mis-read, is that supposed to proove my links are also not true? thats the typical American way of thinking, so I assume that’s what your thinking right?;)

No, you have not provided any sources. You have shown plenty that say that Russia used to have a very respectable ASAT program but you have provided absolutely nothing about current projects.

We’re talking about two different things now, I never said (not that I can’t look for it) that I could give NEW sources to Russia’s current ABM systems.
You asking for the same thing as Sefferin, I’ll have to look for it then.

It wasn’t any less effective than the Russian one of the time. Neither one could make a dent in an all out attack so the US wised up and decided to stop wasting their money. Today’s system is not designed to try to stop an all out attack. You’d think you’d have figured that out by now as it’s only been mentioned about a hundred thousand times over the years.

The U.S. didn’t think so when it came to Russia, they had over 10-12,000 SAM/ABM missiles, that would have made a BIG dent in the U.S. attack, and the counter attack would ahve flatted U.S.A., why do you think the U.S. started to re-do thier ABM systems again? it sure ain’t against Iran.

Offcourse life is now far better than what ever rule in past i 100% agree but here we are not discussing it. Would corporate heads make decisions based on past living conditions or they will only look after profits and building Global supply chain where special prices of men/Energy/material are granted to beat cheap stuff from Asia and ultimately the Share holders of these firms and in the end government has to follow what these corporate will wants as Taxes and employment directly depends on it. They will not care even if Russia thrashes couple of small countries.
. they are in serious need Titanium/Palladium/Platinum/Aluminim and there 20 other minerals. There was serious lack of investment in Gold production in Russia in 90s due to low price but now there is big opportunity.

You know one thing I found wierd was Ethiopia’s currncy is called “Birr” and 1 U.S. $ equalls 8Birr and 50 cents, and 1 U.S.$ equalls 28-29 Russian Rubbles, but Russia is far more advanced in good/natural resources than Ethiopia, so how is Ethiopia’s money more valuable than Russia’s:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

80% of the Luftwaffe or the Kriegsmarine were not on the Eastern front fighting the Soviet Union (not Russia).:rolleyes:

And don’t seem to to have much luck upgrading their weapons in the 21st century either – how many MiG-29SMTs, Su-27SMs or MiG-31BMs are in service at the moment? How many Mi-28s are in service?

By now 150 SMT’s should be in service, by 2000 I think it was a total on 30-40 that were upgraded, and also by now 180 MiG-31M shouild be in service, with all being upgraded AGAIN, because it 2006 the Russian Military said ALL (369) MiG-31’s would be upgraded together, there are now 30 Su-27SMs but then again the baseline Su-27 could already take on the F-15:

“The US Air Force claims the F-15C is in several respects inferior to, or at best equal to, the MiG-29, Su-27, Su-35/37, Rafale, and EF-2000, which are variously superior in acceleration, maneuverability, engine thrust, rate of climb, avionics, firepower, radar signature, or range. Although the F-15C and Su-27P series are similar in many categories, the Su-27 can outperform the F-15C at both long and short ranges.”
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-15.htm

“In long-range encounters, with its superior radar the Su-27 can launch a missile before the F-15C does, so from a purely kinematic standpoint, the Russian fighters outperform the F-15C in the beyond-visual-range fight. The Su-35 phased array radar is superior to the APG-63 Doppler radar in both detection range and tracking capabilities. Additionally, the Su-35 propulsion system increases the aircraft’s maneuverability with thrust vectoring nozzles.”
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-15.htm