Most of them have long gone from here due to the negative whingers who love to poke negativity at practically everything they see here.
Hear hear. We’ve been through this discussion a million times already on this forum. I guess anyone is entitled to an opinion. Just don’t expect anybody to act on that opinion.
Now back on topic?
Not here for pointing fingers, but to provide a book tip. ‘Hunting Warbirds’ by Carl Hoffman offers very good insight in the operation, written by an outsider who went along to Greenland.
Same in The Netherlands. The Army and 5 private companies together are estimated to clear about 4,000 sites a year. That’s anything ranging from grenades to sea mines and aircraft bombs.
In 2005 three Dutch fishermen were killed when a aircraft bomb they had accidently caught in their nets went up on the deck. In 1978 a gentlemen was killed in a digger accident by a UXB. In the late 1980s a fishing vessel was nearly sunk when a bomb blew up just under it when hauling in the nets. And that’s not even going through the stories of people still losing hands to WW2 handgrenades being found on beaches, in fields, etc.
I was at Eindhoven airfield when they were clearing just one area of UXB’s to build houses there ten years ago. Hundreds of UXB’s turned up, ranging from shells to 2,000 pounders.
This old explosives stuff is still a very real problem in a lot of countries.
There is also one “Fokhoven” that still exsit. Fokhoven was a FK 43 which was built after the war by Fokker. IIRC there were built 8 pieces of which one survived.
Regards,
Mathieu.
Correct. 8 built, 1 survived: in a car collection in Raamsdonkveer, safe and sound. Parts of another one were used in a gyroglider which is still extant in the Aviodrome collection, while the engine of yet another is in the same collection.
The crew of Diana Mite (posing circa pic 56) is a poignant one. They lost 9 crewmember with just one survivor in a mid-air over Germany in Jul 1944 (the other B-24 saw 6 killed and 3 POW)…
A flying one would be fantastic – I seem to recall that it was very, very fast for its day – but what would you use for an engine? The original I think was an ABC design, and most things that came from their designer’s pen were pretty troublesome.
Adrian
It was very fast. The 170 hp ABC Wasp gave it 142 mph max. The troublesome Wasp was one of the reasons the Bantam never caught on. The flying one will use a 145 hp Warner.
it looks fit for scrapping, not recovery
Anything wood is very easy to repair, rebuild, restore or replace. This would have been a very good candidate for restoration these days.
Depends on how worn your shoes are. For walking on it, I would not recommend The Book. For reading it though, go for it. Doesn’t get any better on this subject.
It is the only surviving aircraft designed by Koolhoven actually.
Actually, that’s debatable. Koolhoven’s FK.41 was license-built as the Desoutter Mk I, of which Shuttleworth still has one.
It has indeed been restored, but is over 90 percent original material. The second (lesser known restoration, still ongoing) is largely new-built.
See for more on the restoration: http://members.ziggo.nl/henrikaper/koolhoven/bat-fk23-bantam-restoration/
The Koolhoven Foundation put a lot of (volunteer) effort and considerable funds into it. Restoring this (the better of the two) to display condition, enabled accurate drawings to be made. These are now used in a very long term rebuild of the remains of the second example to fly. A very ambitious project indeed.
See for the second one: http://www.vroegevogels.org/nl/koolhoven-fk-23
Movie here on the second one: http://www.krantvanflevoland.nl/nieuws/8135/koolhoven-fk-23-vliegtuig-in-zuidwolde-gebouwd-voor-stichting-vroege-vogels-lelystad/
It is one of two (well: one and a half) up for disposal at the time, yes.
And today’s game is called: how many glue clamps are in this picture?
That’s a load of new bits going into ribs 1 and 2 (lovely workmanship that nobody will get to see once this bit has been re-ply’d.
In fairness when a plane is out of control and coming down it really doesn’t matter where you are,it’s coming down.If the pilots are out of control or in that case actually out of the plane then anywhere planned isn’t relevant.
It certainly would matter to me. I’d like to be in the spot least likely to get hit. 🙂
Correct. When the Tu-144 crashed (Paris air show ) and destroyed 15 houses, killing eight people, there was no freeloading going on. Ramstein and Reno (2012) remind us that being ‘on site’ is no guarantee of safety either.
It is my understanding that since Rammstein the general attitude towards display flying is to prohibite manoeuvres over or towards the crowdline. Logic would dictate that being on the opposite side of the field would mean an increased risk from manoeuvres away from the crowdline. A guaranteed safety I think is indeed an illusion both in airshows, and in everyday life.