Google translated from: http://www.nachrichten.at/nachrichten/politik/innenpolitik/27-Heeresexperten-sollen-die-Gruende-liefern-um-die-Eurofighter-einzumotten;art385,2518816
I wonder how much Hungary and the Czech Republic are paying to operate their Gripens…
Austria could become a highly likely customer for Gripen E when their Typhoons become too expensive to maintain (IMHO).
According to this: http://bbj.hu/politics/sweden-approves-10-year-extension-of-hungary-gripen-lease—paper_62472
Around HUF 30bn which is 97 million € in todays money. For a lease of course.
Anyhow, if they decide to end Typhoon operations, it would be an entirely political decision, actual cost don’t matter. No one cares if in the end the new solution would be more expensive.
Again for political reasons the new solutions would almost certainly be Gripen based. As the Hungarian example shows, leasing would probably not be cheaper, unless they could sell the EFs for a reasonable price. Reasonable enough to also cover the new infrastructure. Doubtful.
Buying would depend on the model. I’d say new E models are out of the question, too expensive. It would be either used C or even A models. Whatever is cheapest but offers the minimum of capabilites required.
Belgium has a close collaboration with the Netherlands on fighter aircraft I believe, so F-35 is no doubt the most likely selection.
Yes the Benelux countries (not to forget Luxembourg) share QRA duties since the beginning of 2017, the Belgian and Dutch air forces take turns in providing the QRA jets.
Belgium like the Netherlands is also part of the NATO nuclear sharing program. If the want to keep it that that way, the F-35 is the only realistic option. F-18E/F, EF Typhoon and Gripen are all not nuclear capable IIRC, Rafale only with French stuff.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2017-03-16/poland-rethinks-defense-procurement
I doubt this is going to happen — OTOH Poland does spend quite a lot on defence, and the current government is also very much focused on ToT and job creation, seems that’s why they cancelled the chopper deal?
One alternative to assembling new a/c would be to buy second-hand F-16 and refurbirsh them in Poland.
On verra.
How about Poland buying the F-16 line and transferring Viper production to Poland? Not many aircraft on backlog now. Waiting for India is probably pointless. By the time they make up their mind, they could have the F-35 line.
A mix of JAS 39E and F-35 might be another possibility, with a Gripen assembly line in Poland.
One of them has to be Stavatti, surely :very_drunk:
Northrop Grumman and Raytheon may join the Sierra Nevada Corporation/Turkish Aerospace Industries developed Freedom Trainer trainer for the US Air Force T-X tender.
You got a source for that or is it just you speculating? Because I don’t see NG or Raytheon burning any money by partnering up with TAI. They had a much better chance with their own aircraft yet chose to walk away so why would they invest in something that has no chance to win.
Its longer than than an F-35A, it has a bigger wing than an F-35A and it has three internal bays…
But the F-35 is short and narrow for its weight. Anyway weight is the only dimension that matters when classifying aircraft. At 10 tons, it would be much lighter than F-35 and thus belongs in a different class. That’s EF/Rafale/Hornet/Mig-29/J-10 class – I’d call that medium class. As in MMRCA :highly_amused:
Yes the light grey and dark grey colors are taken from those H-6 resp. J-20 photos. Clearly they’re exactly the same as white and dark green.
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It is true that no “growler” variant of Gripen exist — however Brazil is developing a missile for the SEAD role, so unless they plan to purchase a separate plane for this role they may be open to codevelop this further. As for weight — it would be a “growler lite”; second, it would use GaN modules that Saab already master; I am no expert but I believe the GaN offer quite good performance at much reduced power requirements?
Firing ARM’s does not make an electronic warfare aircraft. Every Hornet can fire ARM’s but the Growler is a bit more complex. An EJAS 39G requires a lot more co-developing and thus money.
It would not carry 3 big jammer pods like the Growler but something smaller would work surely, I agree. A couple of tanks and a couple of missiles leaves enough payload for some ECM equipment.
Less drag also.
Su-30 family, Su-33 and Su-34 have them because they need more lift at the front end either because they’re heavier or for better low-speed handling (Su-33).
If purchased these would be operated by the USAF…. don’t expect any crowd pleasing paint schemes.
Expect something like this:
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http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/combat-dragon-ii-demonstrates-ov-10g-bronco-capabilities/
Interesting. I assume this is the same configuration:
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from: http://www.centralclubs.com/iriaf-t3364-504.html
I know it compares well with what everybody else is carrying but an external pod isn’t limited space available within the airframe so why not design a larger gun pod? When you considering its likely uses the extra weight wouldn’t have mattered very much. 220 rounds isn’t much compared to what the old 20mm gun pods could carry for example.
There really isn’t more space under the F-35. The gun pod sits between the weapon bay doors and in front of the hook/swiveling nozzle doors.
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My guess is Boeing would also need to do a major upgrade on the T-X landing gear. Currently it looks a bit light to me, if you want to start carrying warloads on the aircraft.
No need to upgrade the landing gear. It is borrowed from the F-16.
Replying here.
MAWS = EODAS, in what universe? MASW is just a warning devise that at best tells you a general direction of in inbound missile.
These are features of EODAS that MAWS does not do:
1. Provide YATO (You Are The One) functionality which tells the F-35 if the threat is headed for him or not.
2. Track all airborne objects (SAMs, AAM, planes, drones, AAA) within the WVR environment
3. Allow for the guidance of HOBS missiles
4. Act as a replacement for NVGs in order to see around the aircraft in low light conditions.
5. Organic BDA, regardless of the angle of the plane
6. Visual quing of detected objects from GMTI and SAR maps
7. Fully fused into the battlespace—EODAS gets with a software update (ie it’s been demonstrated but not part of Block 3F)
1. TBM tracking to include GeoLocation of the launcher
2. Detection of ground fires (with Geolocation) to include MGs, RPGs, Arty, MLRS, etc
Those features don’t require additional sensors, they are software driven functions. Adding them doesn’t require more space and hardware. Well mabye a little for increased processing power.
“F-16E/F internal FLIR” = IRST yes, FLIR no
In both cases (MAWS & FLIR) they are not completely fused.
Even better if the F-16E/F sensor turret were actually an IRST. But I’m pretty sure it’s a wide angle FLIR for navigational purposes. Basically, they repackaged the LANTIRN system: TFR to be handled by AESA radar or omitted, Nav FLIR above the nose, targeting laser and IR sensors into a new pod. A vain endeavour in hindsight, thanks to Sniper et al pods.
Anyway, the space is there to put an IRST on the nose.
Fusion is again software driven.
Nope. There is no room in the F-16 for a radar of that size (1600+ T&Rs), internal EOTS, EODAS, updated computers to process & fuse it all, and MADL to share it all.
F-16I has MAWS (=EODAS), F-16E/F internal FLIR. Could be combined easily. No need for EOTS for A/A only.