In a level subsonic turning fight (= performances leveler) a F-86/Hunter/MiG-17 can beat every Mach-2 opponent. 😉

Cough…. Cough…… Sens I was reffering to Mig21 vs F104…. Mig21 is a supersonic plane 😉

any how a good point raised by you…. I would certainly agree to ur point on most occasions…. but how would u compare subsonic turning fight between F-86/Hunter/MiG-17 and a swing wing aircraft(F14/Su24/Mig23/Tornado)??
Thnx in advance

:diablo: 😀

No Dionis
There was talk about India getting some leased TU-22M3 from Russia…. but off late no news of progress on it

To counter what? Shall we read the Indian newspaper and look at the results? Which nation is most talked about in India? Which nation is most fought against? Pretty much Pakistan oriented. And about qulaity and quantity. Why is India telling others that a few planes would make the impact huge? Now let me add a smiley. 😉

:p PLA believ me I rarely find Pakistan among serious matters in Newspapers in India..
All I find mention of PAK is under Titbits Under International affairs section…
compare this with pakistan newspapers about 90% of space is devoted to India:D

Prove it. I am always supporter of Western equipment in all forums.

:rolleyes: Well we need not go too far to read Read THIS

There alot more richer countrie than Malaysia who had chosen F-16. Just look at Taiwan (5 times richer per capita) than Malaysia. South Korea, UAE. Mostly third world pathetic countries chose Russian equipment.
Harrier stayed in service for long period of time.
How long F-104 stayed in US service?

Ask Greece who had access to westren helicopters but went in for Mi26
F-104 remained in USAF untill year 1972

When did F-4 and F-5 became Chinese?

Oops a typo :confused: Sorry !

F-7 is now totally different plane with no part used from MIG.

So Iranian/Chinese aerospace industry is superior to Russian??:D

Wow, brilliant argument!
And what was the final kll ratio in that war

Wow u feel brave ehh.. ??? Just compare sheer size of USAF presence in vietnam to small insignificant Vietnamese airforce with obsolete MiG19 …
Just search about how vietnamese Mig19 performed better in dogfights initially against Phantoms

Irellevant examples.

If the Iranians would not hed dozens of American as hostages for months, ifthey would not support terrorist organizations they would be good US weapon customenrs even today

PS: 😉 CIA supplied arms to both Iran & Iraq during Iran- Iraq war

Pakistan?-Ask Dr. Khan…

I would better ask musharaf rather than Khan 😉

😀 :diablo: u are funny man!! I think all of us remember what humilation large Ultra modren USAF with superb state of art planes had to undergo due to punny obsolete North Vietnamese Mig 19’s.
Quoting same Iran example… ask those countries who bought american equipment… later had to face upheavel task of maintaining those very equipment when america withdraws support to suit its convenience!!

PS: ask Pakistan

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