many thanks
Hi all,
Yeah your’e right I knew the whirlwind had them :D, but don’t know which others, I have obtained a flight engineer (E) standard notes 1942 and the subjects include exactor / graviner equipment & kestrel engines.
Cheers
Jerry
many thanks
Hi All,
Many thanks for the replies
& thanks slipstream for the info. 🙂
Just need to find what ‘ B / 467 ‘ meant at RAF innsworth in 1942 .
And research a ‘ K Pearce ‘ the one time owner of the ‘standard notes ‘
Anyone know if RAF innsworth was a training base.
Cheers
Jerry
thanks
Hi
Many thanks for the info
cheers
Jerry
Hi
‘ Unless the USA example miraculously turns up in a Pensacola scrapyard’
I contacted someone who did some local research which seemed to imply that the scrapyard was cleared in the late 60’s/early 70’s, but that’s not to say there isn’t the remote possibility it went to another yard.
I personally think it more likely that the ‘P6994’ peregrines will turn up in the power boat given the USA enthusiasm for the racing… or an old boat yard…
forgot another two , Hunter P7009 went down off eddystone light & P7091 Clarke off lands end i think.
I still think the Smith / Vine / Crooks a/c would yield the best parts, ( if permission were even to be allowed ), especially as the recorded crash locations are wrong which has preserved the sites from wreck hunters.
Other options maybe Brown’s a/c P7095, this or substantial parts went to Rechlin for investigation, and then probably local scrap.
And the rumoured captured a/c seen in late 44 at chateufort (?) a/f france, this would likely have gone to a local scrapyard.
Cheers
Jerry
Cheers
Jerry
more whirlwind ramblings
Hi,
Thanks for the reply, glad to think someone else had similar thoughts on P6980.
Forgot to add
The list of sea sites is missing P6969 off Dodman point cornwall,
and P6979 ( Mercer ) might not have been in the sea, I have a poor copy of a photo of the damaged a/c on land, but Mercer is listed on the runnymede memorial. ( more research needed ? ) or did he bail out over the sea ?
Cheers
Jerry
whirlwind rambles
Hi
As we have a topic which mentions the loss of P6980 & F/O Britton,
I would like to add a theory, 263Sq were based at Exeter at the date of the crash and there were local firing ranges at sandy bay in 1940 ( see link for location of sandy bay http://www.newhols.com/how-to-find-us.asp ) , 😀
I have often wondered if F/O Brittons crash location is just an assumption made post war researchers, ( like the theory of P6994 never having reached the USA 😉 ) unfortunately, I can’t locate any local records that would prove/disprove the theory of P6980’s location. :confused:
It seems odd to me to fly all that way, when there are firing ranges just ‘ down the road ‘, ( of interest the GRU were also stationed at Exeter )
Secondly, I think the well known land sites 😉 will yield more parts for a rebuild , than any sea site, ( although true, a nacelle of P6969 was brought up many years ago now.) but realistically only when sufficient technology / cash is available for land recovery, will a whirlwind then be re-built.
It would be nice to see steve vizard whirlwind re built, but being realistic again , it has been out of it’s crash hole for about 26 years ……
I often wonder if anyone has investigated the crash sites in France.
Cheers
Jerry
squadrons
Just a quick request for some info. Many squadrons in the RAF have yellow in their colours ie; 3,4,16,20,33 etc. I have always been told it is because at some time in their past they abandoned the ground crew to their fates! Until a few years ago I believe 33sqn (celebrated?) Crete day ,and were at one time the only “chicken” sqn to serve in the UK. Is there any truth to these urban myths? If so would be interested in hearing the background to some of them..thanks in advance. jase.
Hi,
I heard a similar story from an ex RAF groundcrew, he said there were a few squadrons with a ‘black mark’ against them, ( as i recall it the few he mention were in the battle of france ), apparently it used to effect where they could be based he said.
Can’t recall the numbers now and never really followed it up with serious research.
As said a ‘touchy & delicate ‘ subject, bit like the rumoured ‘gas bombers’ converted but not used in the BoB.
Cheers
Jerry
Sadly this one has run its course…..nothing there anymore….just imagine what I would like to say to the ATC unit that scrapped the peregrines!!
Hi,
My apoligies for resurecting an old thread but I have been away from the board for a while, I missed the post about the ATC unit scrapping them, any details ? my last info on the engines was they were re used in a test rig and were in storage at westlands.
Of interest I was recently e mailed a photo of the whirlwind before it went ‘underground’ and it was pretty well intact, lacking engines of course, can’t post due to any copyright prob’s.
As a final note the ATC weren’t the worst offenders………
In 1970, when a RN technical college, nr Plymouth , was tidying out it’s instructional airframes it offered a cockpit to the RAF, as they thought it was of historic interest, but the RAF turned down a complete whirlwind cockpit, we have plenty of them…….. ( presumably they thought is was a helo )
A true story, as a family relative worked there at the time and offered me the chance to sit in the cockpit before it was burnt in a fire fighting demonstration on a base family open day…..
Sadly I had no camera in those days.
Ironic really I suppose not wanted by the RAF in 1940 and again 30 years later……
But I would love any info on the ATC unit and the scrappies, or if anyone has anything on the whirwind captured by the luftwaffe and seen near Paris in ’44,
Please post..
Cheers
Jerry
Hi All,
Thanks for the comments
Cheers
Jerry
Bruce: Thanks for the info will try and trace down this KLNJ3/8 pulley do you perchance have a company name that produced these?
Mark 12: Thanks for the info as well. It all helps to restore a lovely aircraft.
Just to clarify the bearings are for the larger control cable pulleys in the tail mounted on Frame 20 and on a U channel between Frame 20 and 21
Hi
from a web search
aviationsupplies.ca
http://www.aviationsupplies.tzo.com/cox/ProductListZoom.asp?RecId=18056
Cheers
Jerry
Hi Alex,
Never noticed all the BoB parts….
True I wouldn’t be able to identify an allison piston rod from a merlin.
I Second the worries at the end of your post, maybe I am too nieve ? but hadn’t considered that some people may raid sites to sell parts, But wouldn’t have thought that much profit could be raised from a trip to russia & back, assuming the part description is trueful.
Cheers
Jerry
useless fact
Hi,
Not sure of the technical ins & outs, but apparently, industrial gas turbine engines are also used as pumps/compressors.
Large electric motors drive the PTO shaft, and the compressor section , pumps and/ or compresses gas for the pipelines across europe.
Cheers
Jerry
memorial at RAF Harrowbeer
Hi All,
Had the privilige of being present at the unveilling a few ….. years back,and met a few ex RAf and the old station commander.
Much later I found out an excellent on line ‘memorial site’ has been started, see link for the efforts made by them, a great job.
Photo of memorial on the site.
Cheers
Jerry
name
Hi
Is this the end of ‘spitfire’ beer 😉
cheers
jerry
spit photo
Anymore, JUST made it home shot’s of Spitfire’s outthere :confused: .
Please post them if you have any Lady’s and Gent’s 🙂 .
Hi,
Any chance of the name of the book/mag, it was in ?
The photo [caption exe]was taken at exeter airfield about 5mins from where I work.
Very interesting….. 🙂
Cheers
Jerry