This video at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22511408
has also just appeared on BBC News website.
Thanks Cking
Pity about the last aspect as random checks on “not so responsible airlines” would be useful at LHR if the necessary hand held tools/instruments were available. Good old fashioned swab sticks would do but the cost of laboratory analysis off site would be astronomical.
On the other hand if random checks were introduced it would act as a deterrent against “not so responsible” airlines.
‘Cutting corners’ especially in this prolonged economic recession is something many “not so responsible airlines” may resort to.
One still sees many pax with face masks travelling out of LHR. Sadly these paper face masks are as useless as having nothing as they rapidly become saturated with human breath including any bacteria and/or viruses carried by the pax.
Thanks Amiga 500
A little bit more on the rationale for my opening post.
Who checks that the filters are replaced with correct ones at the recommended time or sooner if contaminated?
Are these records available in real time to all airport health and safety experts that each aircraft makes a stop at (ideally before the aircraft lands)?
Are there random or regular checks (using e.g. hand held devices, that do not require maintenance operations) on filters and air ducts that are made or can be made, by airport health and safety experts, that aren’t the same checks that are carried out by the airline’s maintenence staff at routine schedules?
Why are these and other related questions possibly relevant?
Large numbers of pax are moved for long, medium or short haul periods all enclosed in a presurised cabin (a sealed container).
Aircraft are turned around very quickly for very obvious economic reasons.
Very few of these pax have had any form of adequate medical or health screening before boarding each flight. (dare I say it, some have even forged or obtained for a fee medical vaccination certificates required for entry to the UK)
Bacteria thrive in warm to warmer while viruses can thrive in both warm, warmer, cold and colder environments.
It is not just pax airlines that are affected by this but freighters as well.
There is much recent ado about containers (shipping and air) that are having to be checked very carefully on opening as they bring inside/outside them bacteria, viruses and all manner of small vermin.
Business premises (ie office blocks), hospitals, nursing/care homes, public transport are all potential harbours for bacteria and viruses to thrive in.
Why do these issues become more relevant – prevention is better than cure certainly in the UK, otherwise the NHS bears the burden. UK citizens lose time at work, school, college and university if they develop infections.
I am echoing what Sandy says.
The BA colour scheme is far from ‘tired’ and nor is their logo or the BA operation.
Every time I get on board a BA aircraft in full current livery, I feel proud and safe to be flying my national carrier.
Fly the flag BA and do us proud.
Boeing has its own message at
http://787updates.newairplane.com/FAA-Approves-Plan/Solution?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=CPC&utm_content=728×90&utm_campaign=UK-Contextual-Boeing
In fact it’s in a large advertisement on this forum header.
Hi Sandy
On Thursday 18 April 2013 she was still exactly where I saw her last outside the BA hangar and I cannot see any more detail than I could before before unlike Gerry R and you (when landing) who confirmed that it was a Qatar 787.
This situation may change in the near future with Tartan Pics thread today http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?123273-787-back-in-the-air
Excellent. news but its more necessary for continuous monitoring by all top safety concious customers
It will be good feedback from BA to Boeing once BA get their first up in the air.
No room for an iota of complacency until years after this economic recession.
Hi Gerry R,
Yes I suppose it is an interesting possible contra trading (BA and Qatar) of possible high ‘parking charges’ as referred to earlier.
Maybe BA are charging Qatar less considering the ‘grounding’ wasn’t the fault of Qatar and in return BA have an opportunity of a hands on and technical training opportunity before their own 787s roll out.
BTW BA are good albeit many criticise them (not me). My cousin as First Officer landed in EDI on a fast turn around Norwegian several months back (he is back with SAS now) and the Oleo strut had lost it’s recommended level of lubricant.
BA got her back in the air in no time without compromising safety and they got back to Norway safely.
Thanks Sandy for confirming this from the ‘air’ as unfortunately my observations were purely from a passing vehicle from which I could not see wing extremities or full details of cockpit.
As I posted when the original 787 battery problem was reported …..
As I posted when the original 787 battery problem was reported …..
In that post I gave Toyota as one example of other giant MNEs who suffered major third party supplier quality issues during an economic recession.
It’s hitting the Japanese car industry yet again including Toyota and others (Airbags disintegrating)
This is the longest economic recession in my lifetime and it is a bad one and IMO there will be many more problems in quality all over the world not just affecting the 787 or Boeing and I remain ever optimistic that ‘those in the know’ are fully as I am aware of this and the impact it has on product innovation.
Hence being safer than sorry is the best motto forward with the 787 and there will be a great future for it once all the major problems manifest and are dealt with.
I thought of it being a grounded 787 but…..
I thought of it being a grounded 787 but from the little I can see of it while passing it does not seem to have some of the 787’s unique lines and features.
It was still in the same location on Wed 10 April 2013.
I agree very high parking charges but then possibly a few barrels of oil to the owner. In fact maybe contra trading for a few barrels of aviation fuel.;)
Patience can be a virtue with innovative changes to aircraft
Patience can be a virtue with innovative changes to aircraft – when things don’t go according to the initial plan.
I remain optimistic 😉
Touche –
Touche – I haven’t had time to see all other customers’ 787 liveries.
United looks like they plan to have the cowlings painted and Qantas have the same (smaller) tail logo planned for the cowlings.
IMO This makes minor news compared to Air Transat’s last “showstopper” headlines
IMO This makes minor news compared to Air Transat’s last “showstopper” headlines.
I am sure you all remember “Longest [unplanned] glide of a fully laden (with passengers and baggage) airliner” – Not funny though and it sure was a combination of good fortunes and eventually pilot flying skills
[after the initial failure in common sense to ignore the airbus manual which did not state that the transfer valve must be switched off after a short transfer following first fuel starvation/leak was recognised. Had they shut the valve they could have safely stayed up on one engine and made their eventual destination].
And more importantly failure to do some very quick ‘real’ manual calculations re fuel consumption, before opening the transfer valve. Good fortune (some may say technical/spiritual miracle) and a long runway at Azores that everyone walked away.
There was nothing wrong with the RR replacement engine used just a supposed Air Transat engineer put under pressure by his seniors that was required to use a non compatible fuel feed line compatible with another model of RR engine, and nogt wait for the correct fuel line from RR being shipped/delivered.
You can see some of the burst tires in the pic in first URL below, which obviously took the full force of the mainly uncontrolled/powerless “glide in” landing of a A330.
http://deicinginnovations.com/?p=3193
http://www.iasa.com.au/folders/images/airtransat/revelations.html
The BA Livery looks good on both A380 and the Dreamliner
The BA Livery looks good on both A380 and the Dreamliner (see below from BA image gallery)
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ba.com/cms/global/assets/images/information/ab…