Dash it there goes my application for an equity card

Fine. Give us less of the drama, then.

Hi Lance
Dash it there goes my application for an equity card.:rolleyes:
I was going for a second income for a revival of ‘It Ain’t Half Hot Mum’;)
My annual renewal of my professional accounting registration documents came through by snail mail yesterday I shall stay with it with a focus on the real aviation industry.:cool:

Amazingly that in the 1980s was a waiting to happen …

Amazingly that in the 1980s was a waiting to happen mistake/accident.

The A4 – Great West Road and finals in to LHR coming in near parallel between Perivale and Hounslow West and now further on the Tube.

In those days A4 – dual carriageway – amber street lights hung either side of central reservation lampstandards – in bad weather – do I need to say the rest.

A4 certainly not a taxiway (back up runway) – can you imagine the carnage and loss of life if that mistake had become a real tragedy.

I am hoping that this story that I opened the thread with is bad or speculative journalism and that the taxiway was an authorised line up and landing. It is only Yahoo and the Metro (hah) that I can find a reference to this story with the emphasis on the word ‘story’ (maybe a ‘fairy story’)

If not the carnage could have been also very serious if another aircraft used or crossed the taxiway at the wrong moment.

If it is coincidental luck – then a roasting and suspension is in order as they are probably a British Flight Crew who should know better to take chances with a landing line up.

If this report is true when we have all the modern instruments in cockpit and in/with ATC on the ground and this sort of ‘sh.t’ happens. It isn’t an uninhabited island they landed on.:rolleyes:

Now there’s a man with a heart like mine

I’d love to be, and had considered going down that route.

Test pilots can play with parachutes… not that it would make much difference in the failure scenarios envisaged.

Hi Amiga500
Now there’s a man with a heart like mine.:cool:

God help me (he/she doesn’t anyway) if I’d want my slippers while sipping cocoa by the mock gas fire and watching aunty beeb every night. No I’d rather be out there doing something sensibly planned with an element of risk.:)

I am not sure though in civil test flying if a parachute pack is part of the regulation safety issue. Maybe on the very first flights but how would one get free of the aircraft to use it.I honestly think John Karriker would have commented in the many interviews he gave.
In military test flying and commissioned military flying a parachute pack/ejector seat is standard

Wee guys creating invisible dents and not reporting

The bu!!sh!t approach to dealing with potential problems.

You reckon some wee guy on $3/hr out in, I dunno, pick anywhere, could be in India, could be China, could be the US (ok, bit more than $3/hr then), Europe wherever… is gonna admit to knocking into the aircraft if he doesn’t see a dent?

“Managed” :rolleyes:

You sound like your about 16 years old putting in a sentence like that.

I fear (as do many others) Boeing, Bombardier and Airbus have jumped 5-10 years too soon. They are all using badly understood black-metals to build their aircraft ‘cos the marketing “gurus” dictated so. Its a bit like Intel with the Netburst Pentium… and we all know how that worked out.

No I wish I was 16 years old (again) as a year later I would start flying to gain my CPL and this time I would complete it and maybe fly the Dreamliner. I’ll go buy a Chinese Fortune Cookie or maybe the Japanese do an equivalent.:)

You obviously are better in your strategy planning than Boeing, Airbus and Bombardier and what may I ask have they said in response to your feedback to them on their premature choice of badly understood black-metals.
I hardly think your response would be from the head of marketing though.

You may be voicing genuine concerns and only time will tell if these aircraft will be safe or be like the Comet.

About ground handling, all I did was reflect the video material shown after the preliminary training visit the Dreamliner made to Japan and its purpose was for ground staff to become familiar in new methods and techniques.
If you are convinced none of these people (wee, medium or large guys):) that are trained will adhere to the training and will clear an aircraft with (invisible) dents to leave the apron, well again it’s something you should pass on to Boeing.

Well now that makes me determined I want to fly on the 787 as soon as I can afford a flight.:D After all I have flown in Austers, TigerMoths, Dragon Rapides why not in a plastic pig?

Apologies if I said the wrong words

You seem to have problems with those who don’t agree with you. If you are not keen on posting items on which some may hold a different view, you should perhaps not post at all. That would certainly get my vote. 😉

How come you answer my post with sarcasm and yet agree with Flightmech who said the same as I did? :confused:

The 787 is not a new era in civil aviation. 99% of passengers don’t care what they are flying in as long as it gets them there along with their luggage.

Whether the 787 becomes a great aircraft, well, we’ll see… in about 25 years time.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m pleased the 787 has finally made it into service. The much vaunted and ridiculed at 9 month flight test programme turned into 2 years as many predicted but they got there in the end. Safely and without too much drama.

By the way, most of the recent innovations in air travel have come from Airbus – not Boeing. When Boeing have tried something new the product is over 3 years late.
Now the Sonic Cruiser, that was truly different, shame they didn’t have the nerve to go through with it.

Arthur

Apologies if I said the wrong words that offended you. I was a pilot remaining avidly interested in aviation, unlike you who still is from what I gather a pilot.

If the general consensus of the moderators and members is as you state and is that I stop posting I shall.

Please ask the mods to PM me directly on this subject.

I do not intend to convert the success of the 787 going commercial into a personal slanging match. There are too many threads that have been closed because of this occurring.

I respect your skills and knowledge and I hope that’s absolutely clear.

Kind regards

Jay

[QUOTE=talltower;1800062]Article excerpt from Aviation Week

Air India Has No Money To Buy Boeing 787, Says Aviation Minister

Debt-ridden national carrier Air India does not have the funds to pay for the 27 Boeing 787s it has ordered, Civil Aviation Minister Vayalar Ravi said Sept. 9, a day after the country’s nodal public auditing agency flayed the state-run airline’s hasty expansion plans.

“The decision to acquire a large number of aircraft was risky and has contributed predominantly to the airline’s massive debt liability,” the comptroller and auditor general (CAG) said in a report sent to parliament on Sept. 8. The fleet acquisition process also took an “unduly long time,” the CAG said (Aviation Daily, Sept. 9).

Ravi, in reacting to this report, says that the delivery of the 27 aircraft had been delayed by Boeing for three years. He did not specify whether the order would be confirmed or canceled, but made clear that if these aircraft were delivered, there is no money to pay for them.

Air India Boeing 787-837 – A Flying Dream That Won’t Come True

Source: http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=aviationdaily&id=news/avd/2011/09/12/12.xml&headline=Air%20India%20Has%20No%20Money%20To%20Buy%20Boeing%20787,%20Says%20Aviation%20Minister[/QUOTE]

And what were we supposed to believe in posts around the time the Trent 1000 at RR Derby suffered an uncontained failure on the test rig, that AI were suing Boeing for delays of the 787 to the tune of billions.
I slung it back saying that AI were just on an attempted rip off money making gangster heist against Boeing but could very well have leased some 777s in the interim if it was customer revenue they wished to gain.

Sorry I have no sympathy and they aren’t the only outfit out in those parts that will be in global financial trouble. See previous public scandals e.g. Satyam, etc and maybe the days of global creative accounting are truly seeing the buffer stops.:)

I certainly hope poor Land Rover don’t get slung on the skip in a few years due to similar financial mismanagement.