nJayMWho’s burying whom ? PIL burying SIL or vice versa ?
Jim
Who’s burying whom ? PIL burying SIL or vice versa ?:rolleyes:
We could be digging for a while – better get Dr Pepper’s description too;)
nJayMLook at the mother and remember your girlfriend will likely turn out that way
Look at the mother and remember your girlfriend will likely turn out that way.
Run now if you don’t see it being a good future.:rolleyes:
Jim’s on the right track, the future PIL (Pater In Law) will after the initial frosty ego trip be sneaking out to the pub with you to get away from the women- they can be the eventual ‘Dragons’. Most men have love – hate relationship with their wives (in the best possible taste of course – Kenny Everett) .:D
nJayMLook at the mother and remember your girlfriend will likely turn out that way
Look at the mother and remember your girlfriend will likely turn out that way.
Run now if you don’t see it being a good future.:rolleyes:
Jim’s on the right track, the future PIL (Pater In Law) will after the initial frosty ego trip be sneaking out to the pub with you to get away from the women- they can be the eventual ‘Dragons’. Most men have love – hate relationship with their wives (in the best possible taste of course – Kenny Everett) .:D
nJayMIf you have forgotten how to laugh you are ageing far too fast – slow down and chill
It’s not even funny, just pathetically childish!
Obviously written by schoolboys for schoolboys!
If you have forgotten how to laugh you are ageing far too fast – slow down and chill – beers, shades and the BBQ out while the weather lasts:D
nJayMYes he would and let him try http://http//theoatmeal.com
Jeremy Clarkeson stuff!! My 13 yr old grandson would love it!!
Yes he would and let him try http://http//theoatmeal.com:D
nJayMIt’s a stotter as they’d say up North
It’s a stotter as they’d say up North.;) If you can’t laugh about it curl up go back to sleep.:rolleyes:
I like it.:D
nJayMCondolences to those bereaved
Condolences to those bereaved and may the pilot RIP.
6 months (BBC report) isn’t a long time to await AAIB findings given their priorities.
nJayMProjects are more complex and cost much much more now than …
Hi Sky High
Projects are more complex and cost much much more now than the early pioneers.
Salaries of the ‘boffins’ now escalate for fear of their being stolen by a competitor. In the old days the ‘boffins’ worked primarily for the love of their craft and mistakes were corrected by themselves through trial and error. Their salaries were relatively lower down in their priority list – they loved tinkering, experimenting and having fun with challenges.
The problems of extra expense in projects come flooding in by the fact that there is now a huge infrastructure surrounding the ‘boffins’ that often hold their creative talents back, cost the earth and act as no more than an army of planners, managers (there’s a dirty word in my book) for everything and multiple layers of sub contractors many who run on J.I.T. (also cut corners on quality in the hope no one sees, except someone usually dies instead)
The days of a scientist lifting the phone and saying “Hey guys I have made a boo boo with a measurement, how long will it take you to fix it?” are long gone. Now this would take weeks or months of expensive project meetings and the result being implemented will take another few months. Sadly the result by the time it has filtered through may be wrong and need the entire charade re-enacted.
If you want to get to Mars just put enough of the highest IQ guys in the field together and sure they’ll agree and disagree vehemently but usually will sort themselves out. Provide them the resources and reduce the questions that are irrelevant and most of all take away the layers of bureaucracy that hold the entire investment to ransom.
In the meantime if the ‘boffins’ can identify commercial benefits of getting to Mars then I am sure an Oligarch or someone similar is likely to show an interest (on a long haul pay back) to finance the project. Maybe it will happen again that a nation other than America will do it first, as did happen with the first satellite and man in space.
I am not sure about whether I agree about the indebtedness of the developed world – cut all aid at once to countries (BRIC) that are now supposedly so wealthy that they are buying up global assets. Charity must begin at home. Reserve aid for natural and other disasters in any part of the world or for countries that are still genuinely impoverished.
Quality of Mars or Hershy bars aside you may live to see a return trip to Mars by humans. I remain optimistic.
nJayMProjects are more complex and cost much much more now than …
Hi Sky High
Projects are more complex and cost much much more now than the early pioneers.
Salaries of the ‘boffins’ now escalate for fear of their being stolen by a competitor. In the old days the ‘boffins’ worked primarily for the love of their craft and mistakes were corrected by themselves through trial and error. Their salaries were relatively lower down in their priority list – they loved tinkering, experimenting and having fun with challenges.
The problems of extra expense in projects come flooding in by the fact that there is now a huge infrastructure surrounding the ‘boffins’ that often hold their creative talents back, cost the earth and act as no more than an army of planners, managers (there’s a dirty word in my book) for everything and multiple layers of sub contractors many who run on J.I.T. (also cut corners on quality in the hope no one sees, except someone usually dies instead)
The days of a scientist lifting the phone and saying “Hey guys I have made a boo boo with a measurement, how long will it take you to fix it?” are long gone. Now this would take weeks or months of expensive project meetings and the result being implemented will take another few months. Sadly the result by the time it has filtered through may be wrong and need the entire charade re-enacted.
If you want to get to Mars just put enough of the highest IQ guys in the field together and sure they’ll agree and disagree vehemently but usually will sort themselves out. Provide them the resources and reduce the questions that are irrelevant and most of all take away the layers of bureaucracy that hold the entire investment to ransom.
In the meantime if the ‘boffins’ can identify commercial benefits of getting to Mars then I am sure an Oligarch or someone similar is likely to show an interest (on a long haul pay back) to finance the project. Maybe it will happen again that a nation other than America will do it first, as did happen with the first satellite and man in space.
I am not sure about whether I agree about the indebtedness of the developed world – cut all aid at once to countries (BRIC) that are now supposedly so wealthy that they are buying up global assets. Charity must begin at home. Reserve aid for natural and other disasters in any part of the world or for countries that are still genuinely impoverished.
Quality of Mars or Hershy bars aside you may live to see a return trip to Mars by humans. I remain optimistic.
nJayMNumerical precision and thereby avoiding errors has a lot to do with this topic
Numerical precision (including unit compatibility) and thereby avoiding errors has a lot to do with this topic.
In particular your thinking that you may not live to see a manned mission to Mars.
Errors, mistakes, disasters cause expensive set backs and delays hence numerical precision in the entire world can lengthen or shorten delivery of projects to a sensible time scale.
The recent lack of numerical precision and care in the financial world has set the developing world and in many cases the entire world in an economic melt down and all projects will be much slower and hence cost much more.
I still think you can be positive about your seeing the Mars mission as economic troughs don’t last forever.
nJayMNumerical precision and thereby avoiding errors has a lot to do with this topic
Numerical precision (including unit compatibility) and thereby avoiding errors has a lot to do with this topic.
In particular your thinking that you may not live to see a manned mission to Mars.
Errors, mistakes, disasters cause expensive set backs and delays hence numerical precision in the entire world can lengthen or shorten delivery of projects to a sensible time scale.
The recent lack of numerical precision and care in the financial world has set the developing world and in many cases the entire world in an economic melt down and all projects will be much slower and hence cost much more.
I still think you can be positive about your seeing the Mars mission as economic troughs don’t last forever.
nJayMIt may be sooner but as you already probably know …
Sure a lot of money, but strange things happen in politics, economics and in the world.
You obviously will know about this very, very expensive mistake – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7826431.stm
It’s used as a textbook example of how not to do things in many professions including accounting/auditing and was used successfully as analogies by Ewan Davies BBC when he very seriously critiqued the City for its financial scandals.
Please have a read and delve further and trust me that is just the tip of the iceberg in Numerical Precision out there. Usually in engineering it can be spotted quicker as something goes ‘kaboom’ fairly quickly.
In the accounting world there are only button pushers now who have grown up on accepting the friendly computer interface they see on the screen as where the magic happens. Hence audit after audit it passes as A OK – blind to the nightmare going on below within the actual number precision.
They unlike a few of us (still alive [just] who can read software programme code pre compiled underlying the interface) can possibly decipher when in a “large company model” ie in a large MNE, consistency in rounding (up or down), and lack of documentation where and when it is done, affects final numbers in these very large models.
You never know your wish to see a manned Mars mission – may get to “Houston we are go for launch” in your lifetime.
nJayMIt may be sooner but as you already probably know …
Sure a lot of money, but strange things happen in politics, economics and in the world.
You obviously will know about this very, very expensive mistake – http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7826431.stm
It’s used as a textbook example of how not to do things in many professions including accounting/auditing and was used successfully as analogies by Ewan Davies BBC when he very seriously critiqued the City for its financial scandals.
Please have a read and delve further and trust me that is just the tip of the iceberg in Numerical Precision out there. Usually in engineering it can be spotted quicker as something goes ‘kaboom’ fairly quickly.
In the accounting world there are only button pushers now who have grown up on accepting the friendly computer interface they see on the screen as where the magic happens. Hence audit after audit it passes as A OK – blind to the nightmare going on below within the actual number precision.
They unlike a few of us (still alive [just] who can read software programme code pre compiled underlying the interface) can possibly decipher when in a “large company model” ie in a large MNE, consistency in rounding (up or down), and lack of documentation where and when it is done, affects final numbers in these very large models.
You never know your wish to see a manned Mars mission – may get to “Houston we are go for launch” in your lifetime.
nJayMYes that could be the answer and maybe the novices at work …
Yes that could be the answer and maybe the novices at my work don’t know a touch and go from a fly over/practice approach (no touch).
Sure it is I guess the closest airport to Leuchars. And I am glad they do practice at alternate airports.
I too remember the practice runs when we lived at Corstorphine. Recently their was a BA Airbus that was obviously training at EDI as it showed up on Flight Radar doing what in my days of flying were referred to as “circuit and landing approaches”.The BA Airbus was at it for over an hour.
It’s useless using Casper to back track in time (a few days back) to seek the Eurofighter as military aren’t picked up for good reasons by these radar tracking systems ‘joe public’ have access to.
nJayMUgh oh no that may suit some but isn’t going to help is it?
Ugh! oh no that may suit some but isn’t going to help is it?
If you felt it useful to ask her father before marriage then stay with that plan it is still nobler and will or may win in the long term.
The babies can be when and if wish to have them.
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