More from /facetious – a commercial done during sudden de pressurisation maybe
More from /facetious – a commercial done during sudden de pressurisation after the recent gaping hole in the roof (Sky Interior) maybe :rolleyes:
(if it is genuinely a Southwest Commercial)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXF0isF5Uxs 😀
In reality I thought my sound card had gone t.ts up.:cool:
There are a few more recent pics at this URL
There are a few more recent pics at this URL –
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/04/04/air-france-crash-debris-bodies.html
Also see URLs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373189/Victims-Air-France-flight-447-Atlantic-year-mystery.html
with a sonar debris field image
http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/af447s-airbus-a330-wreckage-found-29251/
The pic of the undercarriage should draw some comments
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Since the pic of the undercarriage hasn’t got an intense bright light (undersea submersible lights) reflecting off it it should draw some interesting comments from our experts on this forum. I did some amateur enlarging of pics.
To the bottom of the pic of the undercarriage appears to be the missing piece of rubber tyre tread from the upper (in pic) tyre/wheel. Amazing that this piece of rubber stayed where it is and wasn’t disturbed by currents or large fish and moved much further away from the undercarriage assembly.
Current experts should let opinions flood in when it comes to pics re crashes
It’s such a pity that when it comes to air crashes in international airspace or in this case international waters that experts on the investigations do not keep an open mind about ‘serious’ technical opinions from outside following publication of pics.
It does not mean all outside opinions will be correct and will also be necessary to weed out the ‘cranks’ but there is a wealth of expert knowledge out there (some contributing to many forums such as this) many who worked with ‘hands on’ (‘eyes on’) on engines and airframes and they may fill in amazing clues that are vital to the final results of an investigation.
It means keeping an open mind, publishing the pics, and inviting comments that are relevant which are considered by the nominated investigation experts.
Thanks for this …
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Hi Homer090001
Thanks for this.
Jay
Of course they do its the current trend – SKY INTERIOR ala Boeing
Sure, 737s develop holes in the crown area on a daily basis
/sarcasm
Of course they do its the current trend – SKY INTERIOR ala Boeing – got to keep up with the ‘Jones’ well in fact the Boeings.
/Facetious
Quite sad as it was carrying UN staff
Quite sad as it was carrying UN staff. Condolences to those bereaved.
Perseverance pays off – I’ve got my toes crossed as well as my fingers
Thanks Kabir. They will surely find the flight recorders. Fingers crossed.
Perseverance pays off – I’ve got my toes crossed as well as my fingers. For all we say about the French, having lived there most of the people I know are devoted to their families. They would all be wishing the same for the sake of all those bereaved.
I hope they do find the FDR and CVR soon.
Wonder if that engine will be a revelation in itself – much of it looks in one piece
A pic has been released, showing one of the engines of the A330.
Wonder if that engine will be a revelation in itself – much of it looks in one piece?
Couldn’t reach the supposed rest of the new pic gallery though.
This is good news of sorts as it may start to provide vital clues
(Reuters) – France has discovered what appears to be part of an Air France(AIRF.PA) passenger aircraft that crashed in the Atlantic almost two years ago, accident investigators said on Sunday. A deep-sea salvage vessel located pieces of a plane in the past 24 hours and French experts believe they come from the missing Airbus (EAD.PA) A330-200 passenger plane, the BEA accident investigation authority said.
Hi KabirT
Thanks for posting
This is good news of ‘sorts’ as it may start to provide vital clues and even point to where other essential pieces of wreckage may be located.
For the bereaved I hope they do manage to find evidence of the cause of the AF447 crash as it may bring partial closure in their long sorrow.
It also comes at a time when the French judiciary require more evidence for current court proceedings.
Let’s watch the ‘news’ for more.
It makes the issue move towards – older – more stringent checks higher premiums
Classics are Certified for 75000 cycles I believe, but since the Aloha incident additional detailed airframe inspections are required periodically after 48000 cycles. I guess that this number might come down if this incident proves to have similar causes.
This incident may prove that the older (Classics) will require more regular stringent checks, possibly less use on rapid turnarounds and review whether replacement is a more viable option (from many angles)
Southwest have been fined for maintenance violations and investigated by the Feds several times for maintenance irregularities in the last few years. I hope that this is not another case of oversight or omission. No point in criticising Southwest yet though, as it hasn’t been made clear whether Southwest has been doing all it should have been doing according to the maintenance schedule and the grounding of 79 737s is primarily out of concern that other members of the fleet might have similar undetected problems, or whether there has been another irregularity in the airline’s maintenance regime.
If Southwest do prove they have been keeping to maintenance schedules then this starts to move towards a much wider problem for all 737 fleet owners of the same Classics.
Overall it may seem that some of the European airlines including the LCCs are possibly doing the right thing in leasing new or buying new with short depreciation and write off periods.
Now that the wreckage is visible – I too ponder why no survivors ?
I don’t get it. Folks have crawled out unscathed from much more mangled wreckage than that. Aside from fire damage, the fuselage looks intact.
So sad. 🙁
Now that the wreckage is visible – I too ponder why no survivors ?
As reflected upon by Bmused55 there have been survivors from far worse crashes, and this was within the airport just short of the tower. Fire attendance could not have been delayed as they have been thanked by the Mayor for their part.
It must be awful for the bereaved to see the video footage and wreckage as they must have the same grief stricken questions – why no survivors ?
Condolences to those bereaved – being a prototype test crew has its risks
Very sad news for the test crew and company. 🙁
Condolences to those bereaved – being a prototype test crew always has its risks but it’s still very sad news when it actually claims lives.
pprune has some suggestions of marketing/commerical controversies about the true model but it’s looking as if it is definitely a G650.
It is unlikely though speculation is rife on pprune that serious customers will ‘go off’ the G650 orders but it may mean customers waiting a little longer.
Gulfstream are serious business jet manufacturers and they will get on top of the problem following the investigation which will be aided by it being within the airport.
Gary Kelly’s publicity agent wanted to give a whole new meaning to “Sky Interior”
Maybe Gary Kelly’s publicity agent wanted to give a whole new meaning to Boeing’s new option “Sky Interior”😉
Now that I have been factitious it begs the burning question – this sort of heavy utilisation surely must not lower the priority of routine safety inspections and maintenance.
Grounding the rest of their fleet after the event is as the saying goes “shutting the stable door after the horse has fled”.
What is going on across the ‘pond’ as it is only a few weeks since we had United in trouble with out dated ADCs on possibly 96 757s ?
It begs the question why on Boeing’s home turf are so many customers playing ‘hokey’ ?
If the answer is the obvious (as I suspect it is) – ‘cost cutting’ then the obvious solution is for their insurers to up the premiums charged and make it more economical for the airline to carry out routine maintenance.
MOL and his FR are a perpetual April fool joke – the laughs’ at the customer’s ….
MOL and his FR are a perpetual April fool joke – the laughs’ always at the customer’s expense both literally and in monetary terms:D