You’ve opened up another RyanAir free publicity thread

Just booked flight from Liverpool to Malaga 21st May and Girona to Liverpool on 29th May. So 8 days driving up the Spanish coast from Malaga to Barcelona area. Great flight times. £80 total coast. Ok they add £15 for checked in bag, £6 card fee, £6 online check-in but so what, it’s only £80. Bargain. I remember the time when you didn’t have these budget airlines and had to buy extremely expensive open jaw tickets. Well done Ryanair – I don’t mind if it cost me £1 for a piddle on the way.

Hi Culpano
You’ve opened up another RyanAir free publicity thread. I am not convinced you have a bargain at all – ‘enjoy’ it though since you chose it.:rolleyes:

Why do people moan about RyanAir, you ask; because in most people’s opinions they are simply not much cop and are constantly blowing off ‘hot air’ with ridiculous cheap publicity statements.

Has anyone got a better transcript for ATC and AF007 and Comair

Has anyone got a better transcript for ATC and AF007 and Comair

My amateur ears pick up the following crucial dialogue/s in the http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=121691.

ATC: Air France 7 super Runway 22 Right turn left on Alpha, Hold Short Echo

7 Super: Left from Alpha (then garbled)

ATC: Air France 7 Super (garbled)

ATC: Air France 7 Super hold short! (momentary hesitation and change of instructions) Give way to opposite direction traffic at Kilo Delta

7 Super: Give way to ‘opposition’ (at least that is what I hear in a French accent)

Then Comair 553 reports collision.

There is hope after the 21 April with the salvage commencing

There is hope after the 21 April with the salvage commencing. There are remains of bodies and possibly for many bereaved relatives there can be hopefully closure when they lay their loved ones to final rest.

Quoting http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13057612

“……. sensors.

The French transport ministry has said that the ship Ile de Sein, which is equipped with a remotely-operated submarine, will leave Cape Verde on 21 April to begin retrieving parts of the wreckage.

The bodies of many of the victims were also found at the site. ………”

With the progress in modern technology the days of anything similar to the mystery of the ‘Marie Celeste’ are over as they usually find wreckage, albeit it takes time and money.

Some more interesting facts of the area where the collision occurred

Some more interesting facts of the area where the collision occurred

http://www.eaa.org/news/2011/2011-04-12_airbus.asp

It includes some diagrams and a satellite image of the collision area.

“……..The length of taxiway Mike from the north edge of Alpha, across the perimeter road to the beginning of the ramp area, is very short. It is unclear where exactly the CRJ was stopped in this area and for how long. When given instructions to taxi to a ramp area, aircraft are not supposed to stop on taxiways unless they advise ground control ahead of time. The Delta ramp area may have been too congested for the CRJ to fully clear the taxiway.

In the case of the Airbus, all aircraft in motion are to ensure that their movement will not cause a collision. From the center of an A380 to one of its wingtips is 130.9 feet. The NTSB will look into the circumstances of this collision and future issues such as if Alpha taxiway is an appropriate route for the A380 and other larger aircraft. ………”

It’s like a giant shark getting rid of the minnows – unfortunately shark is bruised

It’s like a giant shark getting rid of the minnows – unfortunately shark is bruised too.:rolleyes:

Not a good way to get rid of small fry.:D

Al Jazeera seems to be the only one making this ‘noise’ …..

Al Jazeera seems to be the only one making this ‘noise’ …..

I keep an open mind but in the US if this was as serious as the widespread coverage Al Jazeera is giving to it all over the internet, by now US investigative reporters would have been raking it in with coverage.

Does anyone know if RFIDs are used by Boeing and it’s subcontractors to track parts on the 737 NG?

By this I mean that if there is any substance in the allegations in the video (other world manufacturers in the automotive trade have been hit recently with serious quality issues impacting on safety) can the supposed parts (seem large enough to be RFID tracked if RFIDs were used initially) not be tracked on existing aircraft in service?

Yes I recognise chasing quality is expensive but if there is a compromise the alternative is lives lost in a catastrophic way.

At present I see the programme as a smear campaign.

Excellent opener – keep em coming:cool:

Quite a collection of pics at this URL – old and new

Quite a collection of pics at this URL – old and new

http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=af447&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1024&bih=481