Creaking Door ref your post#5

I think your 40/60 split on households is a little off track if I remember rightly when that comment was first made it related to the population rather than households, plus of course the comment was made purely to raise the ire of taxpayers creating the feeling that just a few are subsidising the rest.

However let the stats ride for a little and think it through, remember the “60% unproductive” will include all youngsters from birth to finishing education, (with the current state of youth unemployment beyond that for too many) all stay at home mums who bring up and care for their children, all the retired who with the best will in the world will not be contributing more than their pensions, (even though it feels like it at times) add in those unable to work, those in low paid work, plus of course those who are not in work.

Certainly when I was working I contributed more than I took from the system, but within my household when our children were young my wife stayed home to look after them and yes we lived quite well on my income, but even there you had 1 productive person and 3 nonproductive, none of the three were in any way a drain on resources, but it is quite easy to see that a 40/60 split between productive and nonproductive people is probably true.

According to the latest figures apparently pay and bonuses is catching up or even higher than inflation, I would presume that this includes all pay and bonuses, with that in mind I would like to see a breakdown showing where the extra earnings are actually going.

What is absolutely certain is that those on low pay, mickey mouse work contracts, forced part time and those in need are seeing none of it, saw on one of the news channels one financial analyst pour liberal quantities of cold water on any triumphalism. In his view, while welcoming any improvement as good news, added the rider that he estimates it will take at least 5 and more likely 10 years before the country as a whole is back to pre-recession levels of income.

I dearly wish to see the punitive, austerity measures dispensed with and some fairness introduced into our society, whether this will ever happen is debatable, what is certain it will never happen with the present gang in power.

I know we will get the usual howls pointing the finger at layabouts and scroungers, but just how big a factor is that? everything we see reported refutes that blatant propaganda completely, just to clarify I worked throughout my working life and have no more time for scroungers than anyone else, but I totally abhor IDS and associated cronies branding all benefit claimants as scivers and scroungers.

Looking at the standard of reporting the Mail would never dare feature Moggy in there news articles, they simply couldn’t take the aggro.

The plane is variously reported as “single seat” and “single engined”, they would have had G-NADZ down as a warbird.

It’s all very well lying down pretending sleep, but you have parked your vehicle in a restricted area and as yet have no trace of MOT or valid tax disc.

I notice Greenpeace got in on the act, prophesying doom and destruction unless we all ditch the cars, take to public transport, bike or walk.

I am as aware as anyone that vehicles chuck pollutants into the air, but in these prevailing weather conditions it isn’t even entirely our pollution.

snafu #152

He’s merely keeping up the family traditions.

John

Totally agree your post #2, you see we can agree on some things, but I won’t push it.