Sounds good to me. If someone can supply them we can add them. May as well go the whole hog and make it an almanac!
How about AGS codes??
Thanks Kenb’o – already spoke to Peter – he is having a think.
Cheers
You could try contacting ‘Merlin Pete’ he posts on here fairly regularly, or, try his website http://members.lycos.co.uk/pwgrieve/ he runs and maintains a Griffon58 (as well as 2 merlins and an Alvis Leonides!) I’m guessing he’d have a good idea regarding rarity and/or spares.
Good luck 🙂
Kenb’o
Doesn’t really need to be a good one! 🙂
good ones are, since they are still used for tractor pulls and spares for runners
Thanks Roger
Yes they are. Somewhere I have a list of Dunlop wheels ref codes…
Are component manufacturers useful too?
Dunlop numbers (wheels, brakes, maxarets, control hadles, hydraulic valves)
AH and AC numbers generally meant a complete assembly
AHO and ACO numbers were for individual itemsRoger Smith (ex Dunlop Apprentice)
Well, the last thing I would ever do is rub the DH mafia up the wrong way. Might come after me with a bit of balsa… :p
This list is not my own work – rather an amalgamation of others so I cannot take credit for it (or the spelling) – i’m just keeping the flame buring so to speak 🙂 But will correct it!!
It was not the norm for de Havilland to prefix part numbers with the letters DH. In the early years of Stag Lane design all drawings were numbered in a single numerical sequence. This covered types such as the DH 60 series, through to the Tiger Moth (DH 82) and Fox Moth (DH 83) etc. From memory, I think it was perhaps the Dragon (DH 84) which introduced a model designator in the drawing number but I would have to check if that is correct. Thus, the first element of the drawing (or part) number denoted the model, followed either by the drawing number or (for later types) a system designator and then a drawing number.
Thus, the configuration of de Havilland part numbers for the Chipmunk is C1-TP-313. This number denotes a Chipmunk part (C1) for the tailplane (TP). Other systems were denoted by letters such as CF (Controls, flap) and FS (fuselage, structure). Part numbers for the Dove and Devon start 104, the Heron 114, the Trident 121 etc. Strangely, de Havilland used to ‘pick and mix’ its parts and bits with Dove part numbers are still used on the Nimrod MRA4!
By the way, Whitley Project, the DH mafia gets terribly anal about the spelling of de Havilland – better not walk down any dark lanes for a week or two!
Lots have come out of the sea much older than that and have made excellent static displays. The problem is locating them – it takes a lot of time and money…
30-odd years of salt water corrosion? probably nothing left worth recovering.
Hi Bruce
I have the burnt remains of one from a scottish wreck and the control levers and pistons from another. I even have the drawings for them. Next time we meet I can show you.
The selectors were Lockheed designed and licence built by Automotive Products of Leamington Spa. The Whitleys shared the hydraulic flow valves also common to the Mossie. The company have agreed to overhaul any of their hydraulics for us – I just need one that is overhaulable!
I suspect that Phil has the later clamps in that case.
Cheers
I am sure I can find you a selector. Are you sure they are the same as Whitley?
There are some later style teleflex clamps that have a flare nut and greaser, and also some with just a flare nut and barrel.
Bruce
There was a thread on it a while back. I have been putting my own list together – i’ll start it as a separate thread. If anyone wants to add to it, great.
As for Whitleys – the prefixes are AW or SP. If anyone has anything i’ll be pleased to hear from them. Other armstrong whitworth aircraft used the AW prefix, but as far as I know SP was particular to the Whitley.
What are the component p/n ranges for the AW made bits of a Whitley, do they have a standard prefix or suffix.
I just wonder if people may have parts without knowing what they are from.
Does a site exist that lists p/n ranges by manufacturer or type.
Interesting you say that Bruce as I understand Classic Aero have some teleflex clamps but they are apparently nothing like these…
I’m after a Mossie type hydraulic selector – don’t suppose you know where I can get one? I need the three lever variety – same as in the Whitley.
Cheers
They are actually used all over the place, in a great number of aircraft. They are teleflex joining clamps, and most aircraft that have teleflex controls will have a good few of these.
Bruce
Yes, I remember that from Aeroplane Monthly I think… No part numbers on it apart from the number quoted in the ebay blurb.
I’ve never seen it on any whitley armour plate – some of which has been in fairly good condition…
It’s not for gas detection is it?
It seems to be a mark on most pieces of armour plate inside bombers. The explanation I’ve heard which sounds right to me is that it marks the item as steel, and therefore it will affect a magnetic compass if it is moved.
I looked into the Defiant rumour a year ago and found nothing at all to substantiate it. I even contacted the supposed original source of the rumour and he denied ever even seeing the alleged side scan image….
Happy to be proved wrong – does anyone have a copy of it?
Also, Defiants contain magnesium ++++, so just something to bear in mind when pulling one up from the depths. Might need a sieve to get everything.
:p
Hi Anne
As you correctly point out, it is a wargrave so out of bounds – very little remains anyway – hopefully it will be left alone.
Cheers
If you want to go diving on a Whitley how about P5009 in Loch Enoch. Bit of a slog to get to and don’t get any ideas about recovering it as it’s protected as a war grave.
Anne
Sure – I could ask him. Do you think he has the time? He always seems to be so busy.
If he has the time then that would be great.
Cheers
Have you thought of asking Steve to go. I’m sure he would love to go up and do some video. He has this great big Hi Def camera with housing and a massive light system.
Ali
That’s fine Allison, there is no rush! I will not be able to dive as I am just far too busy these days unfortunately with both Whitley and job matters.
I can put any diver who is interested in going down there in touch with a local diver who can take you out ete. I’ll gladly stump up the cash for the dive in exchange for some piccies.
Am currently moving house at the moment. Too far away from the coast in Yorkshire so am moving to West Wales so not available for a few weeks.
Ali