Agreed, the programme was quite good, but the narration was dire! It sounded a bit like jason statham……..ruddy awful!
Also, I know the reds are ok and quite ‘tight’, but flying 6 feet away from each other…..hmmmmm, I very much doubt that.

Bomberboy, the CWH met all of their commitments for flights with passengers. In fact they ended up doing more than planned. The engine incident happened after the passenger flights from Humberside (one of which I was on board!) and then to raise more money after the engine incident, when more extra cash was needed, further passenger flights were flown from the South Coast, can’t remember where now, at short notice.

Thanks for that info David, it is good to know the whole picture, but the point I was trying to make still stands. The risk was that something could go wrong and it did, so financially and even with the extra flights that you are unable to remember the detail of and which I do not seem to be able to see detailed or even noted in the CWH thread from the time, they still had less funds generated at the end of the day, as opposed to nothing going wrong.
Even you yourself posted after the trip had concluded “This makes interesting reading concerning the costs of the trip to CWHM. Final figures not in yet, but they seem to think they will be in the black”. With all that had gone before during the trip, I do not read this as a full on financial success, so just imagine the outcome had it been A N other aircraft that did not get either the publicity that had been afforded to the Canadians or that the visiting aircraft had anything like the ‘draw’ that the Lanc has here?
I even seem to remember at the time, that they were going to have to pay the BBMF for engine rental, in addition to the fact that a new engine was still going to have to be funded whether it was due or not. A kind of ‘double whammy’?
Even if a new overhaul was due in the future, the trip ensured that it was going to be sooner rather than later anyway with the number of hours accumulated in completing the trip. The same will apply for all the engines.
Let’s also not forget about the landing mishap at Humberside which thankfully resulted in no damage, but the risk is still applicable, especially so far from home.
What would have been the outcome had they attained any structural or other damage, as opposed to mechanical damage? Look at what has beset the BBMF Lanc this year and they are the BBMF?

Regarding displaying independently from BBMF, they did so at Middleton St George. Apparently it was quite something. I missed it, unfortunately.

Again thanks for that David and as I had written, I was happy to be corrected.
OK so they did one. One out of how many?
And what happened next?
Arguably, one could say that they might have pushed the aircraft a bit harder than they had been and the result was a forced stay with lots of burning the midnight oil and shortened fingernails. It is still a risk that has to be considered.

Perhaps, one way to look at it is, the bigger and more ‘spectacular’ the visiting aircraft is that has to make the journey, the greater the financial risk.
Although unlikely, but if that risk is covered by a large funding sponsor/guarantor, then bring it on!

The rules have changed now Jim, so that should now be possible.

For Spits and the like it has, but the comments I have heard directly from the CAA differ for large aircraft.
Sally B is not allowed to fly fare paying passengers.
That said, it was kind of acknowledged that the ‘inevitable’ “would get there at some point in the not too distant future”, so only time will tell.

CWH did rides over here with the Lanc last year when they brought it over.

That is true and with the engine problems, I believe less than they had planned which helped to make the tour less fund generating as they had hoped?
But also don’t forget, the BBMF were very much behind and involved in the CWH tour, the Canadians did not just decide to bring their lovely Lanc over independently. If it were not for the BBMF helping them out with the engine issues, how much harder and more costly would the trip have been for them?
With this in mind and how can I say this? Whether any ‘official’ authority involvement was sought/informed would appear to have been a grey area from what I was told. I ‘suggest’ even an element of confusion perhaps, particularly with the huge BBMF support ‘might have somewhat clouded’ certain factors.
Don’t forget, the Canadians were given very little rope by the BBMF for the whole trip.
Did anyone see a public (or any for that matter), Canadian Lanc display routine on its own? I am not aware of one other than at Coningsby I believe for their DA? I am willing to be corrected.

Don Brooks was not allowed to take fare paying passengers for rides in Liberty Belle in 2008, and neither the C-47’s ‘Whiskey 7’ or ‘Union Jack Dak’ or even the Breitling Super Connie were for that matter, allowed to fly in the same manner either and all three of them were also only last year.
When ‘Diamond LIL’ came over in 92, she had hoped to fly fare paying passengers and was not allowed to, worse in fact was the fact that she lost two engines on that trip.

So what I am trying to add here is that the whole Lanc thing last year was very different in all respects, to any other that has been before for independent operators and until large aircraft are given some kind of ‘absolute’ from the authorities that they can carry fare paying passengers, it is a massive financial risk for them which can obviously go horribly wrong very easily.
Add also to that, the Lanc has a different meaning over here vis-a-vis a B-24 or even less so a B-29.
Crikey, the number of people that say to me in general discussions when I try to enlighten them about warbirds, where even the B-17 is constantly called a B-52 :apologetic: or is more easily referenced by the name Memphis Belle followed by a “oh yeah I’ve seen that film”.
I’m sure all these this things are carefully considered and that acting on a relatively few ‘wish-listers’ requests is not exactly a sound basis.

Personally I’d love to see both here, but particularly the B-24 as that is what my father flew in, in the RAF.
Certainly like the idea of a Shack though!

Paul Bonhomme

John Romain

Dave ‘Rats’ Ratcliff

John Dodd

Cliff Spink

Ian Smith???

Matt Smith???

Paul Bonhomme

John Beattie

Dave Pulleston

Hopefully I’ve got these all correct?
The ones missing either I just cannot recognise them or I don’t know.

Just the MAA and internal MOD/RAF beaurocracy to deal with then?

Three of Supermarines’ finest, one a Griffon powered example, headed south over Blackbushe, appx 15 mins ago. Headed to Goodwood perhaps?

There are two relevant news items if you scroll down the superb web resource here

At least that site lists two separate project elements. Masters of the Air and The Mighty Eighth.

If there’s any filming as speculated at Manston it’s VERY low key!!;)

It was curious at a time when Manston looked like it was starting to fight its for its very existence, no sooner had that started when suddenly a potential ‘saving grace’ in the shape of the HBO mini-series became named. Now baring in mind that even the Reel Brief interview states that they have only recently been looking at UK sites, how is it that the people at Manston said it was possibly in line for selection, but that was last year? It may be that they were trying to hang onto anything in argument to help in saving the airfield.
I don’t see that as a problem in their quest as I’d do exactly the same, but the trouble is that people start believing it.
I would also be curious however, as to exactly what at Manston, would lend itself for a period film when there are a number of others that have all the necessary correct building architecture already in place?
For me, Manston doesn’t, but I’m not the one paying the bill and so if they strike some fantastic deal with Manston, then all power to their elbow.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2015/08/29/hbos-the-mighty-eighth-an-update-its-getting-close-500-million-budget/
Moggy

Moggy,

This piece is largely copied, a lot of it word for word, from a kind of ‘HBO fans’ site which itself is dated Oct 31, 2014.
The link you have posted is dated only today.
Anyway, I do not believe that the information is correct.
I believe it is based on some supposition and guesswork by the ‘fans’ site when the teaser trailer was ‘discovered’ by them. even this Mighty Eighth teaser trailer has been out there for quite some time.
People who are connected in doing The Mighty Eighth have been to the UK for a short visit during the summer.
They sent me something in confidence to do with The Mighty Eighth and it does not indicate that it has anything to do with HBO or Playtone.
What I have, clearly shows it as a film, not a mini-series.
The teaser trailer was merely put together as a concept trailer and if I remember what they told me correctly, some of the internal B-17 shots, were filmed inside one of the US B-17’s.
If they use the name of the airfield that I have seen, then it would be a little ‘familiar’ for a lot of people on here. that is of course unless they change it.
I have mentioned it to them.
Hope this is useful?