I actually respect the way the Church is managing its decline respectfully.
Indeed, but whilst the silent minority/majority (delete as per your own belief as to which is correct) of those actually on the ‘front line’ of the church – the ones working with the public every day – might doubt their belief, the official word from the top has always been more toward an all-knowing, all-seeing deity who is infallible.
About three years ago I had the fortune to talk with a vicar who had been in Rwanda in the immediate aftermath of the genocide of 1994. He had been – in his own words – utterly traumatised by the savagery that had taken place and could not understand how the two sides could do such things to each other, nor why his god could allow it to happen. He had some medical training and was present, assisting the humanitarian aid group Doctors Without Borders, at a massacre in a refugee camp in spring 1995 where he witnessed thousands killed by the Rwandan army while the few UN troops present could do nothing; on his return he suffered a PTSD breakdown (as did General Dallaire, the Canadian commander of the UN mission in Rwanda throughout the genocide, who fought with his superiors in New York about trying to prevent the slaughter beforehand and with them when they wanted to withdraw UN forces from protecting enclaves of Tutsi, hospitals and other humanitarian sites; little wonder he subsequently tried to commit suicide…) which was prolonged by frequent visits from superiors all eager to underline the idea that his belief should be stronger after having witnessed such scenes! Apparently when others suffer similar doubts if they cannot be returned to the right path then yet want to carry on doing the church’s work (“after all“, he told me, “you can lie about what you personally believe, and no one knows unless you tell them!“) they are ‘shamed’ (his words) into silence with the plea that the church needs to present a strong public face – which was what happened to him. So when someone that high up the religious food chain, like the archbishop, makes this sort of admission – even if just in jest – it must show that some logical thinking over belief has been accepted.
Of course, how the African churches react will be the real test…
Well, it is an American news company…;O)
Oh, hello again. Thought you were ignoring me.
How about, for a change, you actually address the subject rather than float in, issue my dismissal like some sort of all conquering fuhrer whilst trying to drag the topic off subject, then smugly retire as though you had nothing to do with it?
All that plastic polluting the atmosphere.
Watch out this thread doesn’t go off topic and get closed down…;o)
Is/was there an Aeroplane Month forum? I thought there used to be but a search just now found nothing, so at least there won’t be any arguments over which one gets cut…
For Fairey IIIF Mk IIIB S1535 it will be around 1931.
Delivered to FAA Pool Gosport 30/1/1931. Makers at Hamble to 443Flt Lee On Solent for Battle Cruiser Sqn, for HMS Hood, ’97’ 30/5/31. To 444Flt for Battle Cruiser Sqn on HMS Hood ‘716’, 1/32. Damaged (probably beyond repair?) on catapult, disembarked 14-15/3/32.
From Fleet Air Arm Aircraft, Units and Ships 1920 to 1939 (Air Britain).
Does it have 97 on the side?
The plastic must have run when they incinerated her, that’s all I can say…
Before or after she died…?
Oh, good grief. Someone disagrees with you therefore they are a troll. Someone gives an opposing view to yours so they must be a troll. Don’t debate, don’t attempt to convince the ‘troll’ they are wrong and certainly don’t look at what they are saying and try to see why they might think that way and NEVER accept that view and change your own mind, oh no.
If you like Bruce delete me but a disruptive influence on this forum does nothing for peace and harmony!
I like Bruce – although not in that way – but I don’t see what that has to do with anything. But, as I said above, peace and harmony to you would consist purely of no one expressing a view contrary to your own.
Mines a pint of Pedigree please John!
Is it? Mine prefer Winalot, but by the tin…
Picky I know , but having built models of both there is a considerable size difference , and yours was more likely a TR1 .
No, no, no. He saw it this year – the TR-1 became the U-2S in 1992…;o)
More slight drift. Marine Salvage of Portsmouth sent several ex Saudi Lightning cockpits to Pinewood for use in the Wing Commander film.
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(This one is – or was – at Little Horsted, East Sussex)
I believe a Canberra cockpit also appeared. Developed for the big screen from a computer game, it wasn’t awfully attention grabbing…
…even a bit of paper from Dam Busters regardless of how glamorous it actually is…
Strangely enough I have similar bits of ancient but interesting bits of paper that I keep because they have an historical – if maybe personal – relevance and are a direct link back to an actual event, but I wouldn’t dream of selling them (if they were to be sold, that is) because I would be embarrassed to ask for anything like £145 for any one of them. I pulled that bit of Dam Busters memorabilia out because it appears to be exceedingly expensive for what is, in essence, just a torn and folded sheet of paper with a few details on it that – unlike some of the props on sale at that site – probably never went on the set, was never handled by any of the actors involved, and might be the last survivor of several run off on the studio’s copier to be distributed to executives and producers; to actually display it like they have almost lessens the value of the ‘genuine’ articles they have, the stuff that did appear on screen. (Somewhere I have something similar from The Guns of Navarone (1961), which has other names typed in but crossed out and the stars names added in pen. I picked it up along with a folder containing scripts, a couple of storyboard pages, portraits of the actors in character, and a letter commenting on the poor quality of the prints used for the general release asking if there is anything that can be done to resolve the problem; I ‘rescued’ it all from a pile of stuff that was going to be dumped in a skip by a house clearance crew in North London about 15 years ago)
To me that cast list is not worth £145, to someone else…yes, maybe, but it will be interesting to look back in six months and see if it is still for sale at that price.
There are several different “regions” within the UK. The hybrid of which in the unified country may not be best for all.
– London
– South England
– North England
– South Wales
– West Wales
– Scottish central belt
– Highlands
– Scottish borders
– N. Ireland (even it I would break into two, Belfast and Country).
Generally it is not ‘South England’ but divided into ‘South East England’ (affluent) and ‘South West England’ (not as affluent but does contain Cornwall, where some residents would like to declare UDI); I am not sure where the divide actually is, especially when the weather forecast mentions ‘Central South of England’. I believe there is a similar distinction in the North too – and haven’t you missed out the ‘East of England’, the ‘Midlands’, ‘Scottish Islands’ and ‘North Wales’ in your chop-up of the country?
Looked through that site, and I believe they are having a laugh:
British army jacket and trousers as used in A Bridge Too Far (1977) £245!
A clapperboard from Battle Of Britain (1969) £1995!
A cast sheet (a single sheet, mind you) with agency contact details for The Dam Busters (1955) £145!
Think I’ll wait until they have a sale…
They have some munition which is approaching the best before date and want to use it rather than scrap it, or maybe they figure it is a nice way to keep the aircrew trained?
(I don’t know, in case you hadn’t guessed)
Gosh. When I’d finished with them my old plastic models ended up on the bonfire.
Wish I’d saved them now, to flog to people with more money than sense!;o)