T-stoff was hydrogen peroxide and C-stoff was hydrazine hydrate
Wasn’t that the stuff they used to put in soldiers tea? ;o)
IF???;o)
Um, was the cockpit usually offset to the right (looking forward)? Is it offset to the left in this picture? There is something about the decking in front of the wing that looks a little different to all those I’ve looked at on Google Image, so if the picture has been flipped when printed (the negative being back to front) then it might be the other side of Italy!
But I’m probably wrong…
All gone quiet…
Lazily can’t find a list for the content – before its destruction – of the Deutsche Luftfahrt-Sammlung (or whatever), so with a nod at the other thread featuring a Dornier Wal I shall mention that D-1422, formerly N-25 and G-EBQO, one of two used by Amundsen unsuccessfully to try and fly to the North Pole in 1925, was preserved there until its destruction in the air raid.
Thanks all. Guess I was hoping for something a little more exotic as transport than a Wellington when it mentioned Boyd and his staff being passengers, with me thinking of more than just him and one other…
Or show up the neighbourhood already*…
I remember a similar case where the house owner insisted, on oath when disputing a similar misdemeanour charge from the city authorities, that they watered their garden with a sprinkler ‘religiously’ for an hour a day – between midday and 1pm! Not only were they watering baked earth but if the water didn’t evaporate soon enough it was effectively boiling what grass had survived.
Couple that wasteful mentality with the kind of mindset that leaves fans and/or aircon running for days (or weeks, or months) whether the house or office is occupied or not “to keep the room cool, of course”, and it makes you wonder if there is any concern for precious resources or are they maybe being paid too much (if they can afford to run aircon throughout the summer, even with windows and doors open, without worrying about the effect on their power bills, what other conclusion can you reach?).
*An Americanism I never did understand.
Because, obviously, you are not a goat?
Or a kid…
Definitely post WWI! The Dornier J Wal made its first flight in 1922 (in Italy, due to restrictions made on Germany after the war, and production continued there until 1931 when it transferred to Germany, other than the licence built military versions produced in Spain and the Netherlands).
With a strong shadow coming from the rear of the image it could be that the view is toward the south (being that the shadow is not very long) and the landscape doesn’t look very northern European – might this be the east coast of Italy, the eastern Mediterranean (Greek Islands etc), or possibly Spain? Or somewhere else around one of the five continents because the Dornier Wal wasn’t exactly a stranger to globe trotting…;o)
But if you manage to zoom in on the aircraft itself and see if there are any markings that would help immensely.
One of the AB pictures has a note that it subsequently became N234KC.
Googling N234KC came up with:
In 1955
Constructed as an A45.
BEECH A45 G-789On 12 May 1987
To Cox Kris E, Mccall, ID with c/r N234KC.On 19 February 1997
To Cox Kris E, Groveland, CA with c/r N234KC (T34A, G-789).By 28 September 2003
To unknown owner with c/r N234KC.On 28 September 2003
Involved in an incident.
Summarized NTSB narrative from report number SEA03LA196: Incident occurred at Mccall, ID. There were no fatalities. On September 28, 2003, approximately 1330 mountain daylight time, a beech T-34 (A-45), N234KC, impacted the terrain just short of runway 34 at mccall municipal airport, Mccall, IDaho. The private pilot and his passenger received serious injuries and the aircraft, which is owned and operated by the pilot, sustained substantial damage…http://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=59059
The NTSB brief report says:
NTSB Identification: SEA03LA196.
The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Records Management Division
Accident occurred Sunday, September 28, 2003 in McCall, ID
Probable Cause Approval Date: 03/30/2004
Aircraft: Beech T-34 (A-45), registration: N234KC
Injuries: 2 Serious.
NTSB investigators may not have traveled in support of this investigation and used data provided by various sources to prepare this aircraft accident report.Upon returning to the airport after a local flight, the pilot sequenced himself into the traffic pattern behind an Aviat Husky that was following a De Havilland Beaver. Just after he rolled out on final with his gear down and his flaps retracted for a no-flap landing, the pilot noticed that the Beaver was pulling off of the runway. He therefore continued on final at an airspeed about 10 to 15 knots above the aircraft’s no-flap stall speed. As he neared the runway in calm wind conditions, the pilot concluded that the Husky, which had landed just beyond the threshold, would not be exiting the runway before he touched down. He therefore decided to execute a go-around. As he was adding full power, the aircraft encountered a disturbance most likely created by the Beaver, resulting in the left wing suddenly dropping and the aircraft losing about 50 feet of altitude. As the engine revved to full power, the pilot was able get the wings level and stop the altitude loss, but his remedial action was insufficient to fly out of the disturbance, and almost immediately thereafter the right wing dropped and the aircraft fell another 20 feet onto the terrain.
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
The inadequacy of the pilot’s remedial action taken in an attempt to fly out of an encounter with the wake vortex turbulence created by a preceding aircraft while on short final to land. Factors include calm winds in the area of the final approach course, and the pilot’s inadvertent encounter with wake vortex turbulence.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20031001X01646&key=1
Ok, for reasons I can’t now remember – although possibly to do with lateness – I didn’t search for his full name, just Air Marshall Boyd – which didn’t bring up a great deal. Hence finding a whole Wiki page on him now causing me a little surprise!
On his way to Egypt, Boyd was to stop in Malta. However, the aircraft in which he and his staff were passengers was forced down over enemy-controlled Sicily by a group of Italian fighters. After destroying his confidential papers by setting his own aircraft on fire, Boyd became a prisoner of war (POW). He spent much of the war in the Castle Vincigliata (Castello di Vincigliata) camp near Florence, Italy.
This apparently came from an article titled Prize Catch in Time Magazine, 2nd December 1940, which seems to be unaccessible on its website.
So I suppose all that is needed is the aircraft he had been flying in when forced down…
Good work!;o)
There is an awful lot of speculation going on in this thread; the Sea Fury has crashed, the pilot escaped unhurt after doing a remarkable job getting it down – does there need to be this back and forth speculation over what did or did not, could have, might have, should have happened?
Sure, it is only human nature to wonder in the immediate short term, but we shall know in due course.
Back on message…
A medical examiner has ruled that a white police officer’s “chokehold” caused the death of a black New Yorker.
Spokeswoman Julie Bolcer said Eric Garner’s death last month, which caused an outcry, had been ruled a homicide…
The cop concerned is suspended, as are a few medics; might cool the tempers of both the police and New Yorkers for a short while.
Not sure it is a good idea to put your phone number up – get them to message you or something…
Been busy recently, but the kids were watching some Hobbit film and I sat down with them to while away a few hours…
When I woke up I found it was The Desolation of Smaug – as dull and boring a film that I could hope for to help send me to sleep when I obviously needed it.
Can’t help you with the plot, doubtlessly it was fairly similar to the other one/s (fill in as desired); but can I just say that the baby – a Frozen/Tangled enthusiast – thoroughly enjoys Willo the Wisp (Kenneth Williams, 19981) on Youtube?
3000 hrs is nothing for a jet 🙂
A site I was looking at recently had some flying bus at +82,000hrs, which was why I asked…
(I guessed that the air forces birds might not get quite so high!)