Because Castro’s niece could be on the missing airliner, and Cuba has just let the Russians back into the closest Communist site to the heart of America.

Therefore – tin foil hat time – the conspiracy is that America must have brought down this flight to get back at Castro/Cuba for allowing the Russians back in to spy on them… Simples.

You said ‘horse hocky’ – that is near as damnit horse hockey, which is a good description of polo.;o)

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An RAF gate guard F.8 (Lyneham?) was chopped up in the 80s…

F8 WK968 at Odiham?

And there was a decaying kit of parts that once was TT20 WM224 at North Weald (early 2000’s?) – was that scrapped or saved?

The ‘Arabs’ wield sticks as play guns? What would that look like through binoculars from an Israeli patrol-boat?

Binoculars? Hardly the ‘sophisticated’ targeting system’s sights…
But lets get this bit right: a group of kids, with sticks, on a beach, chasing each other around like kids do? Who points a gun at kids anyway?

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Oh yeah. Sorry…

Yes, the Israelis have sophisticated targeting systems; they can make their shells / bombs / rockets land pretty-much where they want to, but they are still operated by fallible human beings who sometimes see what they want to see or what they are expecting to see.

Children look different to adults; in the same way that you can distinguish between male and female pedestrians at a distance, for example, even without anything to give you their size you can distinguish between children closer to you and adults further away, even taking compression into account.

Of course, we know the boys were playing football right?

They could have been playing cricket, hockey, beach volleyball… Does it matter?

…horse hocky…

Do you mean polo?

I had to tell him it was just water in the jet exhaust and the reason there were more of them in the sky was because our local airport was now an international not just a regional airport. Our local population has risen by about 40% in the last 15 years. to over 100k. Also there were at least 3 other small airfields that are big enough for a twin-jet Boeing or Airbus liner that have been built in the region, to handle all the fly-in/fly-out workers at the new oilsands plants.

But that is what they want you to believe…!

Just how effective was wrap-around camo against all the other, non visual, methods employed by SAM systems?;o)

The boys were hit; whether they were deliberately targeted is debatable.

You believe they were the target of un-aimed artillery? You think the shell-fire was accidentally random?

An exercise? An exercise in what; turning the whole world’s opinion against Israel??? You’ll have to explain the logic of that one to me because it makes no sense whatsoever as a deliberate act; the only way it makes any sense is in the minds of those who are determined to make Israel the ‘bad guys’ for targeting innocents.

To be honest it was a tongue in cheek statement, since the reports from the witnessing media played upon the fact that there was nothing else there – just a beach with some children playing football, a scene that sounded to me like a possible opportunity to calibrate the gun sights.

The truth is that it was probably just an accident; collateral damage.

Have you not read the reports?

And while we are in search of ‘the truth’ how do we know there was not a legitimate target on the beach, how do we know these boys were just playing football? Says who? Their parents? Hamas?

For some reason the worlds collective media just so happened to be closeted in hotels close by…

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AMY GOODMAN: On Wednesday, an Israeli gunboat shelled a beach, killing four boys who were playing there. The boys were all between the ages of nine and 11 and from the same extended family. Seven other adults and children were wounded in the strike. The scene was witnessed by a number of international journalists, including France 24 correspondent Gallagher Fenwick.

GALLAGHER FENWICK: We witnessed the incident. The first strike occurred, and we went out onto our balcony. You have to understand that this happened right in front of the hotels on the Gaza beachfront where most of the international media are staying, so there were very many witnesses of this incident. As I mentioned, there was a first very loud strike that hit a structure that is right on the Gaza port. So, many people looking out onto there. And after that first strike happened, we saw four very young children running away from the point of impact on a completely empty beach, so very clearly visible from a distance. And that’s why—that’s when, excuse me, there was a second strike that obviously hit the other children, so leaving four children dead on that beach—a very shocking incident given that, again, these children were clearly simply playing around and were very, very clearly visible from a distance.

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/7/17/horror_on_gaza_beach_new_york

Don’t you think that had there been anything like a missile launcher close by the press would have been slavering all over it like you lot around a UKIP manifesto?

I don’t know the truth of the matter but I doubt anybody would hold their hands up and say ‘it is a fair cop’, Israel killed the right people. So who do you believe in such circumstances?

I believe the journalists reports because a) they witnessed the event, and b) there were too many of them who saw what happened to bring any bias to bear.

In the media war there is every point in ‘making stuff up’; Hamas has fired hundreds of rockets into Israeli civilian areas, not exactly ‘targeting’ civilians, but clearly not able to guarantee that they are not targeting civilians (unless the rockets are not fired).

You can spend a few hours making stuff up only to find that you have wasted time and, since no one else can corroborate the story, it gets spiked – unless it is really sensational in which case you get herograms from your bosses and threats from the protagonists, who investigate your claims and find nothing in them then plaster their counter-claims all over the place, then your bosses look into your claims and, when they find out you made them up, drop you and leave you with such a bad reputation that no one trusts you, no one will employ you again.

Hamas has fired hundreds of rockets into Israel, yes. They have killed, to date, in this particular conflict, one Israeli. Their rockets (the ones that get past the anti missile defence grid) are just not accurate enough to target particular buildings, let alone individuals.
Israel has fired many hundreds of shells into The Lebanon (why is it The Lebanon?) and killed countless people: that is the point, isn’t it? They can fire and kill at will – they have the technology to pin point their targets accurately. And that accuracy is underlined by the fact that one of their shells landed on a group of kids on an empty beach playing football, witnessed by the worlds press from the safety of their hotels.

The point is perception; there maybe lots of genuine stuff going on but the important thing (for either side) is to make sure the world’s media reports what you want the world to hear.

So…those kids…were..actually there…for the press…to witness…being killed? Hamas and the Israeli navy had this little arrangement, a tableau to be played out for the journalists?
Crazy.
Just crazy.

‘Israeli shells’ landing on a hospital during a news interview with a doctor makes an irresistible story! You can’t see artillery shells coming (you may be able to see something, like a ship, that is firing) and you can’t tell where exploding shells came from (or even be sure that explosions are ‘shells’) but two and two MUST equal four, right?

Just saying what they said. But Regev was not unaware of the incident – he was trying to redirect his answers to the other hospital where there had been outgoing firing and therefore a legitimate target – but he was floundering magnificently.

As I commented earlier media reporting in the Middle East conflict is rarely objective, so the accuracy of any reports should be taken lightly.

Yes, Charlie, you did.
But an incident like the children on the beach happening in front of many reporters like it did… Do you really think they are going to ignore all the military hardware laying about on the sand?
And, strangely, the hospital that was being fired at…nobody said it was hit (gone back and re-watched the video) just that a designated and recognised hospital was fired at, without reason. Surely it would be the duty of a lying reporter to write that hundreds were killed – no, murdered, by those incoming Israeli shells?
Charlie, the story is about the fact that Israel can fire with pin-point accuracy; the tragedy is that only when they want to do they do so.