snafuAnd so it continues with your nasty little insinuations, for which there has been no evidence whatsoever, but you have to ramp it up to a whole new, revolting level.
Oh good grief. Are you saying that this situation NEVER happened in reverse? NEVER?
There is a history of men hurling themselves forcing their attentions on younger women in the workplace: Max Clifford is just the most recent to have been found guilty in court – but I suppose he is innocent too?
And nor is anybody else, but you can’t resist making the dramatic statements, can you?
Willing or not, he had their ‘intentions’ forced on him and he accepted it and he has condoned it – to him it is all just a bit of fun. Yet you can be up on a rape charge if your sexual partner is underage, willing or not, fun or forced: look at that teacher and his pupil who both ran away to France recently…
Did he? Did you see him do it, or are you making something up, just for effect, AGAIN?
No, but I have watched Hammond when he did an outside scene for some science programme – the crew tried to keep people away whilst he went through his lines, and his script wasn’t fixed since he tried out several different lines to see which worked best. Bob Hoskins usually did it in front of a mirror when he had the time, even in public toilets (although not always in private). That is the procedure…
No, just extremely unlikely, but that’s something you can’t possibly consider.
I considered it – that’s why I put ‘could be’.
Was his name Jeremy Clarkson? If not, what does he have to do with the subject of this thread?
Just showing that it is not impossible for someone to be a fan yet have racist views, that is all.
Try asking them, rather than asking others to guess.
I was rather hoping that someone here might be able to help with that question since I can’t see you wearing a Che t-shirt…
Ask him, rather than asking others to guess.
Forewarned is forearmed – if he had (and I am not saying he did) named his black dog after a black sportsman with mischief on his mind how likely is he to admit it?
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Yes, it is, and shows, yet again, how you will make any statement, in your desperate attempts to make a non-story into some major event.
Actually, heard that mentioned on a radio phone-in yesterday – he apparently regularly goes off on one about the French in his Sun column so, this guy asked, why did he give his dog a French name?
And Clarkson’s library is full of them, isn’t it? What, you don’t know? Still can’t resist trying to make any effort to talk up this non-event, can you?
How tiresome – have you not read the thread? Snowy was Tintin’s dog, Tintin was written by Herge, snowy is apparently a racial slur in America, Herge was a well known racist in his native Belgium and elsewhere.
It is all mentioned back there if you look…
Yes, the difference is that he didn’t, and I note that, yet again, you’ve used a word you said you would never use. Can’t trust you an inch (sorry, 2.54cm) can we?
The difference is an example – I would never use that word at or to somebody vocally.
And, of course, you can supply loads of examples, can’t you?
I could, but since you are too lazy or not bothered enough to go find them yourself (maybe try the Daily Mail website) I shall save you the effort of having to justify Clarkson’s actions for each one.
So a slip of the tongue (and however desperately you try to talk it up, there’s no evidence that it was anything more) cannot be apologised for? No, of course it can’t, not if it comes from a white man, since we know that only white men are racist, don’t we?
Well, two slips of the tongue and a possible slur against teachers…
And those words are yours, not mine – anybody can be racist.
Which is where the programme was made, and made for, so no other criteria can apply.
Marvelous – hopefully EELightning agrees.
SAVE his reputation? Save it from whom, or what, exactly? Only from stirrers, like you, who treat any “race” item like a dog with a juicy bone, giving you the opportunity to pick the last morsel from it. I love the way “rightwinger” and “leftwinger” are bandied around as some sort of insult, when most users don’t have a clue what they mean. Still, they sound good, don’t they?
For some reason most probably to do with money the BBC still want him around, but they have apparently given him just one last chance: that is applicable to his reputation.
The rest is supposition on your behalf.
What a shallow life you must live, having to trawl through hours of stuff, for controversial items, just so that you can present it on this site, then sit back and wait for members to fall for your stirring. Quite what pleasure you derive, from such behaviour, is a complete mystery to me.
You are extremely fortunate that this is one of the most tolerant sites I’ve ever visited; on dozens of others, you would be labelled a troll (of the worst kind,) and banned for life.
Can I just ask which other sites you speak of, and which of them you’ve been banned from? You talk as though you have experience in that field.
Snafu ,my works place is NOT in the public domain -no public access ,infact you have to know the codes to doors to get in.
Maybe so, I was not claiming that they could walk right in but in lots of places the occasional kid is not frowned upon by management; some even have bring your child to work days.
One of my colleagues at work is head honcho of the black workers group — i just can’t get it through to him that i feel that that is racist as i wouldn’t be allowed to start a white only workers group–please explain how that works.
I have no idea – maybe in the same way that there are (or were) women’s worker groups to protect them from the attentions of groping hands and unwanted innuendo that apparently doesn’t happen…?
Have you heard the lyrics of some of the songs broadcast on Radio 1 (and not the cleaned-up versions either); surely, if the BBC really care about racist language, attitudes towards women and drug-abuse they should start there before worrying about a word that, may or may not have been mumbled, on a piece of video that wasn’t broadcast.
I doubt there are many here who could find Radio 1 if the name didn’t come up on the display. much less stomach it’s music in an attempt to listen for racist language to moan isn’t racist. But I fear you are fighting a losing battle – Samantha Cameron appears to be deeply into sweary, sexist, racist music:
If New York rapper Azealia Banks is to believed, Samantha Cameron potters around No 10 singing the lyrics [to her hit 212]…
Banks tweeted that Sam Cam told her that she “loves” her song 212. It’s not clear where the two met, although both have been spotted at London fashion week shows.
Sam Cam must have a strong stomach for hip-hop. 212 is the rudest chart hit in recent memory. Radio 1 had to make more than 50 edits before it was deemed suitable to play even after the watershed. It covers a range of topics including gang violence, homoeroticism and cunnilingus, or as Banks puts it in the song: “lick my plum in the evening, and fit that tongue d-deep in”. (If you sing the next line in a posh accent, you could easily mistake it for “punt gets to Eton”.)
http://www.theguardian.com/music/shortcuts/2012/sep/18/samantha-cameron-loves-azealia-banks
Can’t say I’d expect to hear it blastin’ out of No10 though.
And it might not have been broadcast on Top Gear, but the video is available to view (still via the Mirror website, I expect, if the BBC hasn’t claimed ownership) and it has an identifiable Clarkson mumbling away on it.
Come on guys it’s a bank-holiday weekend…..let’s abandon our keyboards and go to the beach!
Went to the beach this morning. It was cold.
Do the Mods and Rockers still meet for a fight at Brighton? Maybe Flypast and Aeroplane readers could gather on Clacton’s promenade and wave their Zimmer frames or Anorak’s at each other each bank holiday…
I mentioned that as a bit of humor/sarcasm…which you seemed to have missed.
Not much humour to be had from the right wing moaning classes. No names, you know who you are…;o)
snafuI did mention it had been there a while, but it has only been mentioned once here – and then only in passing.
snafuRe 144
Not much use at night or, for that matter during dark winter days !
Solar panels in addition to batteries.
snafuI do tho’ know a specialist Dr.
If you think that using yourself as an example of your specialist doctors work will convince anybody…;o)
My God, you do spout some nonsense ! When I left school and before the date – some six months away – for joining my Merchant Navy training school, I worked in a factory that made household bleach and staffed entirely by women.
Sexual harassment? Was that what is was called ? I was one, of two or three other young boys working on the factory floor among these ladies and what fun they were! We were name called, touched, poked, prodded, lured into corners and generally given a bit of a verbal and physical going over.
Did we complain? Of course not. We’d have thought that a bit odd. The women were fun, attractive and humourous, they were all ages and made all our lives a bit more interesting. I remember them with affection.
So you were taken advantage of, back when you were just starting out, and so that is fine. Is it also fine for a young girl, just starting out, to be groped and fondled and abused despite refusing it but the men are bigger, older, and they are her superiors – are you condoning rape in the workplace? Imagine it is your own daughter: would you feel happy knowing that she is being pawed and groped and…abused, in the name of other peoples ‘fun’?
Left wingers everywhere, I won’t impose my ‘laissez-faire’ attitudes on you provided you do not foist your left wing prescriptions on me.
Hey, I’m not the one advocating rape as just a bit of fun.
If they don’t think a room full of women are as bad if not worse than men then some people haven’t got out much.The worst bullies at my school were girls.
Oh and the comment made about posters on the wall of topless/nude males–yes we did,catered for gays,women and males and not 1 complaint but then the new P/C group came in and down they all came – – – strange how you can still buy the scum at any age almost anywhere.
Did you get many children come into your workplace? You know, work experience or visits from workmates offspring?
I was in the office one Saturday and my then girlfriend drew dresses on all the swimsuit calendar models one of the designers had up at his desk. When he tried to create a fuss Monday morning an executive asked him why he thought it was ok for him to have such calendars up in his office but not at home with his wife and kids.
My younger brother did some sort of work experience at a military establishment; he got a huge laugh and his supervisor into trouble when he mentioned the big box of explicit p0rn mags in the room where he was sent to make them tea…
Do you? He mumbled it twice and clearly said something totally different for the final cut.
No, I don’t know – but I do know the procedure: the ‘talent’ wanders about, rehearsing the line while trying to milk all the nuance he can.
How can I make assumptions he’s not a racist? Well, firstly, you’re focusing on the controversial things he’s stated in the past and ignoring the things he’s well known for, such as, his admiration for the Gurkhas, his praising of the Indian Armed Forces during WWII, as is with the same with the Fijians, Canadians, New Zealanders and others that have fought along side the British. He’s also very admirable of what the Australian SAS had achieved during the Vietnam War… Surely if he was a “Racist” why would he show respect, admiration and write books and TV programs about those guys?
So the idea that someone who admires all those military groups could be a racist is an anathema to you?
I used to have a neighbour who loved boxing, even went to some of the big matches (or whatever they were called) but hated all ethnic minorities and wasn’t shy about showing it – was he not racist?
And why would he be proud of having a T-Shirt that simply says, ‘Albania’ on it? Or, how about this one, why would he proudly wear a Vietnamese Flag T-Shirt on the Top Gear Vietnam Special and state near the end of the show, what an amazing country it is? Again, surely if he was a “Racist” he wouldn’t show such an admiration?
How about all those young adults happily wearing Che Guevara t-shirts – are they all communists or were they being worn as a fashion statement?
He named his black dog Didier Dogba, whom is apparently a black football player. (See his Twitter account). He’s well known for naming his pets after sports personalities, of all colours.
Would he still have named the dog that if it had been red-brown, or even white?
I would have thought he might have been against giving his dog a French name, but that’s just me.
There’s a white dog in the Tin-Tin series called Snowy…
Yes, already mentioned – and Herge, the Belgian author of the Tintin books, was a well known racist who has had his books removed from libraries by reactionary schools and councils…
Surely, if it’s “Racist” to name a black dog after a black person then surely it’s “Racist” to call a white dog ‘Snowy’, yes? I’ve jokingly been called ‘Snowy’ from Tin-Tin by a Pakistani friend, is that “Racist”, was I hurt by that, did I accuse him of being ‘Racist’? Ehm, no.
Erm, I don’t make the rules up, and I cannot influence the law. Ask yourself if you’d have been more offended if he hadn’t been a friend and had called you a ‘white cxxt‘ in an aggressive or threatening manner – notice the difference?
Understand?…
Yes, you don’t think Jeremy Clarkson is a racist. But you said that last time but still not managed to qualify it. Be much easier to believe if he didn’t have previous form for insulting other races…
It doesn’t matter what colour he is, the point is, ‘Sooty’ is (according to the Political Correct mob) a racial slur, Sooty was/is what is described as black person in the US. If, as you say, Sooty was named for his [black] ears, then… Go figure it out!
I am not disputing Sooty. I am disputing the ‘n’ word he used which he apologised for and which is regarded as very offensive, in this day and age, in broadcasting and especially when coming from a blunt talking white man not trying to talk street jive…
Understand?
Do you know i NEVER thought of Sooty and Sweep as racist ,i always thought of them as a team made up of chimney sweep type names,just amazing how the P/C brigade can educate me into thinking something i never associated them with.
Me neither, and I introduced the chimney cleaning element earlier…
And you were perfectly right, and it shows just how some will turn any form of twist and turn, in order to find offence where there is none (and never was, so you can forget their “education.”)
Originally, the puppet was all yellow, so Harry Corbett used soot to blacken his ears and nose, so that he would stand out on black & white TV, and that is why he got his name. Sweep was a natural progression. I suppose, now, we’ll find their little friend, Soo, is a racially offensive name in Outer Mongolia, or some such.
No one has said Sooty and Sweep were racist in Britain. The fact that sooty is a racial slur in America was mentioned by one of your own and I have agreed that I had been aware of it, whereas the ‘n’ word is regarded as offensive in English speaking countries by all except right wingers trying to save Jeremy Clarkson’s reputation.
snafuTake a container, add water until the container weighs 10 lbs more, and you have a gallon.
5.0625″ (27 x 3 divided by 16,) with .0625 equalling an odd 1/16″. Now calculate 27 items at 4.7625mm.
I gave the information showing the temperature of the distilled water, weighed in air with brass weights, etc. That was confusing.
No, I have an interest in learning (and history.) The mile predates the kilometre, and evolved from use, rather than a desire for conformity. If I’m 4 miles from somewhere, I know that I can walk it in about an hour, and I find dividing distances by 4 a lot easier than by 6.4.
Kids learn metric, yet car speedo’s and signposts still show Imperial measurements: potential confusion.
Which is fine, until the day the calculator’s battery goes flat, and the shops are shut. Teach children arithmetic, and they have everything they need; we had to learn from 2x to 12x tables, and, every afternoon, had a 10-minute session, where “something times something” were thrown at us, and we only had mental arithmetic to rely on.
Point taken, but all my kids calculators have solar panels on – chosen deliberately because I know what kids are like…
snafuOnly playing to the field ‘Del’ 😉
Maybe you should stop flirting with Derek before your wife discovers your infidelity…
errrr not that sure I started this thread, but thanks anyway (I think.. Del 😉 )
I started the thread – if you need to check just go back to the first post and my name is there. But Derek is referring to you putting the slant the way it has gone, I believe.
Try angling it back to Jeremy Clarkson being either a muppeting divot or a divine saint who can do no wrong and you can’t go wrong and the mods won’t interfere…
honest Injun’ I will (providing that’s not a racist saying & will not offend you or anyone one you can find to offend of course 😉 )
It probably is: I heard a genuine Hopi tribal elder politely inform an American father, who had repeatedly referred to ‘Indians’ despite signs asking otherwise, that since they were nothing to do with India then it wouldn’t offend anybody if he could call them Native Americans. Father then grumpily informed his son in a loud voice that everyone could hear that they’d better not use that name while in the visitor centre otherwise they would get scalped by the Indians! Idiot.
(Reminds me of touring the Glenfiddich distillery several years ago; there was a young English couple in biking leathers who not only appeared to already be a little tipsy but insisted on adding ‘och aye tha noo‘ to the end of every sentence they said, loudly. The guide ignored this crass stupidity but other visitors kept telling them that it was very insulting – which they found funny – and it surprised no one that, when we left, there was a police officer at the gate breathalysing them)
I enjoyed Clarkson’s “observations” on the enforced apology.
It will all be good publicity for Top Gear, one of the BBC’s most successfully sold programnes.
He was essentially just saying he was sorry for being caught.
And wonder if the lawyers and their letter writing will have any effect on worldwide sales – that will really make the BBC take notice.
Yeah how about a free NHS ????
Funny old thing – I have paid many thousands in NI contributions over the years for my ‘free’ health care.
But at least you aren’t charged the equivalent of £70 to visit a doctor (and that is before the prescription charge, if required) like you are in Ireland, or questioned about your medical insurance in the ambulance so that they can decide on the quality of your care as in America (or even which hospital to take you to, since they can be held responsible if they take you to the wrong one).
I am neither a ‘leftie’ or ‘rightie’ – I have been screwed by both parties many times,but I would have to say that the idea of (say) labour being the party for the ordinary working man is very outdated – you only have to look at their leaders over the last 40 years LOL – and as I have said on here before I do believe that Broon single handedly did more fiscal damage to this country than any other PM (plus the damage he did previously as Chancellor of the ex chequer )
Can’t disagree with any of that. There are way too many professional politicians in all parties, that and moneyed people who have never had to try and survive like the common working man on money earned by working.
Free at the point of use is the correct description. A great and wonderful idea 70 years ago but no one then could have seen the NHS grow into the vast badly managed inefficient monolith it has become.
But the Tory’s mates would really love it if we were forced to purchase medical insurance, complete with hyped-up premiums included especially for their share holders benefit.
snafuI know little of these conditions & shorter hours of which you speak Del, again I live in the real world, based around the ‘operation requirements’ which you will be unaware of. So please do not make assumptions about our working patterns.
Do you work bank holidays, or get time off for working them?
Remember in A Christmas Carol (by Charles Dickens) where Bob Cratchett gets Christmas day off even though Scrooge would rather he worked it (it being a working day at the time, a bit like sending kids up to clean chimneys, etc)? (Ok, asking by referring to culture might be just a little too much here…)
How about sick pay? Or any regular pay at all…?
How about the free NHS?
How about maximum working week, minimum wage, health and safety at work (stop yer booing! You haven’t been killed at work yet)?
If these are not in your real world, maybe you need to ask questions of your employer…
eh? can’t see a threat there snafu at all, once again you lefties using throw away weapons lol it doesn’t work any more my friend, afraid you’ll have to think of something else lol
edit & ps…sorry you wasted wasted such a long & drawn out quoted thread etc 😀
There is a marvellous TV/novel/radio drama/stage production of Neil Gaimans Neverwhere, in which the two ‘badies’ – Mr Croup and Mr Vandemar – have a very particular way about them. Watch Bob Hoskins in The Long Good Friday or, indeed, any gangster movie and there will be a scene where implied threats are made involving a fist or a gun, sometimes given a name (like Mr Knuckles) with the implicit threat that you don’t want to upset Mr Knuckles or else he might go crazy and inflicting violence on you, spoken as though to a small child. (Mr Croup ate bone china, for example)
Also Snafu & Del…..being the peoples champions which you claim be to be (leftie power to the people & all that) I hope you have contributed to Jims fund, you know, like the hated & ‘far right fascist’ DrS HAS 😉
Well done you[/patronising tone], and a nice bit of gloating there, but he’ll have to wait until the imperialist-capitalist pig-dogs release the funds they owe me for work they wanted done immediately (if not sooner, and why can’t they pay me immediately? Because they’d find some other bozo to do the work, someone who can afford to wait for them to take their damned sweet time about it, that’s why) before he, Mr Tesco, Herr Lidl, Messers Farm Foods, and Signor Santander etc, get anything.
Jeremy said something he shouldn’t have, going by the video it was an innocent slip of the tongue albeit a very mumbled sing-song
He said it twice to camera; do you know how many times he rehearsed it?
As James and Richard stated, and I’m sure there’s so many others that would say the same too. He’s a lot of things, but he’s not a racist!
A natural reaction, surely, if they wish to protect their jobs too. But how can you make an assumption that he is not a racist when his past record shows he is frequently happy to say things that others – but, oh no, not him – regard as offensive. I am quite aware that I am making assumptions because he doesn’t (it appears) make these outbursts very often – maybe a part time racist?;o)
Just to point out, a few weeks ago he named his black dog after a black sports person and was branded a “racist”, not sure what’s racist about that, in the same way it’s not racist to name a white dog ‘Snowy’ (Tit-Tin, anyone?), oh and you know that puppet ‘Sooty’? (The Sooty Show, anyone?), ‘Sooty’ is another name for a black person in the US.
The dogs name is a new one on me. What is it?
Think you mean Tintin?
I believe Sooty was named for his ears (he is yellow, his ears are black and his friend is Sweep – go figure), but I can’t imagine they’ll target that show at America since their having a hard enough time getting kids here to watch it! When you say name do you actually mean racial slur? Just how badly is it regarded – better or worse than the ‘n’ word when said by caucasians?
The Mirror are the ones that have blown this whole thing out of proportion… The same paper, along with the other papers that are not worthy to wipe one’s ar$e on, that got found out about that little thing not so long ago, oh what was it, just a small thing… that phone-hacking business that ruined many people’s lives. They’re obviously butt-hurt about that still, so it’s little wonder they’re trying to bring others down to their level scumness.
The Mirror blew the thing onto the front pages, but it was the stupidity of Clarkson – a celebrity – saying what he said when the whole of what was Fleet Street is on the lookout for anything involving a celebrity.
The Sun is much more heavily involved in the hacking scandal – Piers Morgan (the faked soldiers urinating on a prisoner pics were his downfall) hasn’t even been arrested yet despite his admission/denials (depending on who you listen to) that he showed how to hack when he was editor… But the Mirror is not regarded as a tainted paper, not like the Sun is anyway.
Looking forward to seeing Jeremy and guys back on Top Gear soon!
Maybe on Dave, or repeats – depending on just how much the BBC want money over credibility and their good name. Think Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross (Sachsgate!) and what might have happened if they had brought in a bit more money on repeats.
Going to bed – might catch up with the rest tomorrow.
snafuIt rather depends on how much (or even if) you want answers.
No, not really, not to the lengths (no pun intended) you’ve gone to – the point was to the quote immediately above my question, the lengths (no pun intended) you had to go to for a precise gallon.
Had I been taught the Imperial system I don’t doubt it would all make some sort of sense, but it is not taught as a system in Britain because the metric system is easier and more logical – despite mistakes with the earths circumference. A child can work something out fairly quickly in any part of the metric system because it follows a rule across the system whereas anything that might involve – example – how long should a bar of steel be if you require 27 items from it, all 3/16’s of an inch.
No, there isn’t…
No, you are looking in to it too deeply.
We are taught metric, yet the speed signs and our cars speedometers are all mph (with kph on the speedo, but not as noticeable).
Figure out the cost of replacing every single one, for a totally meaningless whim.
You are right, but – like my answer above – I was actually referring to the fact that distances on signposts are not metric…
I do find it sad that, when I was 8 years old, my class, in the infants’ school, was considered capable of learning the metric system (and that includes the decimetre and decametre,) but modern children are not, which is something of an insult to their intelligence, and their desire to learn.
Not sure what you are saying here – my own eight year old has long been knowledgeable on the metric system, and even explained to me that they had been shown all the bits about the length of the thumb joint and the arm-stretched to nose yard, the foot, etc. It amused them. But then there were questions about why their rulers were ‘forced’ to defer (I can’t remember exactly what he said, but i got the gist) to an Imperial measurement since 30 cm’s was just an odd length to make it. I told him it was to fit in his pencil case…
My mother, a retired teacher, said to one of my kids “you cannot work the Imperial system out on a calculator very easily“, and I think that is as good a reason as any for why kids won’t go back to the Imperial system.
snafuNo, a non-story is a story that has to be dug up and publicised with malicious motive as opposed to a story which actually happened and was reported as such.
You don’t think this happened? Forgive me for asking, since I am obviously suffering some sort of delusion of him apologising for something that never happened, but what then was apologising for?
Mate. you really have no idea how the real world works
Threats and aggression? Or maybe promises and encouragement? Both work, but which is better? (Not your mate, though)
or used to, before the lefties came along, before the lefties & various support groups set up shop, we all got along just fine, yup, work & rec was aces, but no, you lot & your support groups had to come along….don’t you suppress me! type Monty Python stuff, all was good, yep you made & continue to make issues where there were none! yep, the left just love making issues, normal working people just like to make their working day fly by, but no…the left has to come along & put all sorts of rubbish in everyones way…disagree and you’re a right wing nutcase! Yep, that’s why I why I hate the left…you’re either for us, or a rightwinger….well lefties, I have news for you….I’m in it for a easy working day, where we all have a laugh, possibly at each other expense, but no, along you lot come, arguing your case from your lefty ivory towers protected by your patented ‘racist’ card ™ lol
Maybe you should get some professional help, and you really ought NOT to look into the politics of the Python team (and it’s ‘don’t you oppress me’) since I’d hate to disillusion you further (but Eric is the closest to being a capitalist – hence the rehash of Holy Grail that is Spamalot – but he apparently near thumped someone who called him out for losing his socialist ideals).
Bullying in the workplace is not a good thing, and employers are fully aware of this – people who carry it out either get retrained or replaced. I used to work with an ex-military type, full of banter, who was prone to asking women about their sex lives despite their complaints to him and the bosses, and made fun of several of the younger employees by giving them names like Foxtrot November Golf (or FNG – he even told a boss it politely meant Flippin’ New Guy, although we all really knew what the ‘f’ stood for), Waste-O-Space, or Oxygen Thief. We all complained about him, nothing ever seemed to happen; the boss liked ex-military types.
One young chap was not outgoing, rather introverted in fact, got given the name Dummy (apparently the boss, responding to a complaint, was told this was because he needed to compose his thoughts when asked a question, rather like having to take his dummy out of his mouth before he could speak, but we all knew it was because our ex-mil friend considered him just plain stupid) and, having taken it all personally one particular day, decided he needed to do away with himself by drinking drain clearer from the cleaners cupboard. Luckily it wasn’t all that powerful – or we discovered him too soon for it to have the effect he desired – yet his tormentor even berated him on the ambulances stretcher as they took him away. And when we were asked what had happened, altogether in the offices conference room, our self appointed fun-meister growled that none of us understood about humour, banter, the need for us to understand that he meant it all for the best and we should be relaxed about it, Dummy – and even then , with all the bosses there, a human resources solicitor present, and all of the department, he still called him Dummy – would understand and laugh about it. Our ‘friend’ was sent on a training course and warned that he needed to pass that course with flying colours; I don’t know what the course was since he didn’t pass, never returned.
Did I mention that your above post sounded exactly like him trying to justify himself?
Incidentally I was Joe; annoyingly, he called most of us Joe since he wasn’t bothered about learning our names until we fitted in with him.
I’m just an ordinary working type, we do not need you. we do not want you, just let us all get on with our work & all will be good!
Leave you alone to…what?
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Sounds to me as tho’ your family, collectively, suffer from a sense of proportion and humour deficit. But then, humour was never high on the list of lefty characteristics.
You are sick.
So women should be happy to be subjected to lecherous men just because they don’t have a sense of proportion and suffer from humour deficit! Is that how the righties, the fascists, keep their men happy, forcing women to be subjected to crude comments and comparisons to nude models? Is that it, women should know their place? Is that how you treat your wife, John, if you have one – show her some busty centrefold and tell her she just doesn’t compare?
Or maybe you consider all women are whores and deserve what they get, regardless?
Why not bring back the whip and thrash those workers who are obviously shirking by not taking the mickey out of the women… Hey, thrash the coloured, the handicapped, the vulnerable too while your at it, since they all like a good joke – and if they don’t laugh it must be because they have a humour deficit.
It’s what Jeremy Clarkson would do…
^^^ yep John. lefties have that there 1000yrd stare , don’t expect any sign of humor 😉 ^^^
I asked on here somewhere if anyone could come up with a right wing comedian.
After all, they say the devil has all the best musicians…
Does saying one word make you a racist though ? Of course not.
So he keeps doing it – or keeps getting found out: the Asian on the bridge, the cars compared to Mexican stereotypes, it all adds up in the end.
It’s a story about nothing. The BBC will never get rid of him, the Top Gear brand is worth too much to them.
We shall see. There is a team of lawyers writing to the embassies of all the countries that broadcast Top Gear…
“We are to write to every ambassador and the US president next week asking them to consider the evidence and then to decide if this racist show should be broadcast in their country in future.”
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/02/jeremy-clarkson-row-barack-obama-top-gear-n-word
If other countries think about it and take a different view to you, then the BBC loses face, credibility and money – and the show.
Del, have you ever ventured out into the real world?
The real world? Where people are decent and don’t abuse people for their sex, colour, handicap, etc?
Have you?
I mean seriously? just asking is all, I know lefties seldom like to venture beyond the keyboard,
Says the man with the name ‘Strangelove’ issuing missives from…behind his keyboard.
the world I live in is a rufty tufty type deal
Has that got anything to do with the way you offer ‘banter’ at work? Or do you offer abuse too?
we all get along, we don’t need your cotton wool protection, everyone gets on just fine, we do not need you or your lefty chums , honestly!
‘Because if we don’t get along, we get Mr Knuckles out and Mr Knuckles don’t like to be disturbed, he gets angry and when Mr Knuckles gets angry, hur hur, people get…hurt.’
Such a shame Bob Hoskins has died – he would have played that character perfectly!
Maybe you should consider a move to Cuba or something?
Some UKIP guy said something similar about Lenny Henry – and looked what happened to him!;o)
The UK needs go ahead type chaps, just do your job, have a laugh (ok. option in your case Del ol ) go home. What’s the issue, other that the lefties seeming bottomless pit of offence f course 😉
Maybe you need to put the bottle away and go to bed – without getting ‘rufty tufty’ on your wife. You accused him of being behind a keyboard and at this time on a Friday night I imagine he is at home already.
A “rufty tufty” type place is it? Well good for you. I can only assume that you would have been one of those sniggering and shouting obscenities at the women who work in your factory or wherever it is. Not realizing how upsetting and frightening it might be for them. I mean it’s only banter and you need to have your fun in your rufty tufty workplace don’t you. Who cares who it upsets as long as you’re happy eh?
Good one. Excellent.
Del. again I can only assume you are preaching from a lefty type ivory tower, again, we all get along, give as good as we can get, all good mates, no matter what, it’s you & your bleeding hearts that cause the the divide, no one in my section could be called ‘ist’ in your lefty world, we all get along, do what we have to do, have a laugh, it’s your whole left wing ideal that is actually the problem, our section is what you could call ‘mixed’ both sexually & culturally, we do our job, we have a laugh, you & left wing mates are the issue as I said, if that is the way you want to go, then S0d off Cuba, really. the worlds has had enough of your sorts, just leave us alone, we do not want you or need you…sorry, but that is fact, nowt else.
‘Now don’t make a noise, coz Mr Knuckles, he don’ like noise…’ Just like a gangsters threats.
snafuHave a continent and indeed worldwide (expect for the USA) set of weights and measures is good thing.
Not sure – due to the probable spelling mistake – what this means.
Just in case it is what I think it is…America has officially been metric since the Mendenhall Order of 1893. They still use the American equivalent of Imperial, but they teach metric.
snafuSince it was never broadcast it seems like just another tabloid non-story blown up out of all proportion.
Hardly a non story – there is a video to be seen and he has ‘apologised’!
A non story would be if it was all hearsay and he convincingly denied it.
Yeah, just the lefties reaching for their tried & trusted ‘Racist’ card again, the card they always play in times of difficulty, like when there is someone who doesn’t conform to the ways of the left…hell yeah..let’s dig that good ol’ racist card, yep…that never fails!
So what, in your jaded view, would warrant the term ‘racist’? Obviously not something that would allow him, you and your kind to carry on making offensive and cruel fun at the expense of ethnic minorities in addition to the disabled, mentally handicapped, the unemployed, foreigners whether immigrants or not, and any other unfortunates you fancy abusing, eh?
But hang on a mo…the lefties have played that card so much that its magic power has worn off…people no longer sit up & listen, it’s all really become quite tiresome,
Certainly the BBC have, until now, not bothered with doing much more than telling him he has been a naughty boy and allowed him to carry on the ‘good’ work making money for them.
…folk are asking of the left “is that it? Is that all you have to say?” & yes, that is all they have in the patented lefty special weapons tool box. rant rant blather burble mutter froth…
And all the while the ‘righties’ (the opposite of ‘lefties’, you see? Its nice since to the ‘righties’ ‘leftie’ covers from the Liberals out wards, whereas you know where you are with ‘righties’ – the extreme right!) carry on with their usual rants, claiming that it is perfectly acceptable to call minorities such names since it’s all friendly banter and if they can’t take it then that is their problem for not having a sense of humour.
Not sure I feel totally comfortable with the term ‘righties’ though; should I refer to them by their more usual and proper name, fascists?
Lefties run along now & find another minority who you think will need your support, you’re barking up the wrong tree with this one.
It has been quite a while – if ever – since I heard Jeremy Clarkson (or similar motor mouthed loons) described as a minority, although you are right in that – with his previous ‘foot-in-mouth form, coupled with the sniveling apology he has issued – he needs all the support he can get…
…you couldn’t say this & you couldn’t say that…
So what couldn’t you say? Something offensive, sexist, racist maybe? You liked picking on the fat bloke, the coloured guy, the fit bird and they complained about you?
It is called bullying in the workplace, and just because you think nobody should have objected to it doesn’t mean your employer agreed with you, came to their senses and realised that they had a responsibility to those workers you were picking on or face a huge bill when the court found in the bullieds favour.
Yes, these people shouldn’t be allowed to be offended should they…bloody crybabies.
Peed me off when we had to remove all the posters on the walls of young ladies in varying states of undress 🙁
Did you keep the ones up of the topless firemen?;o)
But shhhhh the left are about…..best behave if I were you…you may be branded “GASP!!!!!” racist 😉 the only card they have now & they ain’t afraid to play it (again zzzzz)
And that coming from someone calling himself ‘Strangelove’…
snafuJohn, to lazily reuse your own quote from…
…Mr. MacEnroe: “You cannot be serious!”
Really. You just can’t.
Why, about forty years ago, was it thought necessary to impose on the British a system of weights and measure invented by M’sieur Napoleon Buonaparte and supported by sanctions under criminal law ? Insist on using our native and longstanding system and you’ll go to prison. That is the way they do things in Brussels.
Nothing to do with Napoleon, as any attentive school kid or history student could happily enlighten you:.
The concepts behind the metric system were developed in the 16th and 17th centuries when Simon Stevin published details of his decimal notation and John Wilkins published a proposal for a decimal system of measurement based on natural units.
The first practical realisation of the metric system came during the French Revolution, when the existing system of measure, which had fallen into disrepute, was replaced by a decimal system based on the kilogram and the metre. The work of reforming the existing system of weights and measures had the support of whoever was in power, including Louis XVI.
The metric system was, in the words of philosopher and mathematician Condorcet, “for all people for all time”.
In the era of humanism, the basic units were taken from the natural world: the unit of length, the metre, was based on the dimensions of the Earth, and the unit of mass, the kilogram, was based on the mass of water having a volume of one litre or one thousandth of a cubic metre. Reference copies for both units were manufactured and placed in the custody of the French Academy of Sciences.
As for the ‘impose on the British‘ metrification bit it was done because the Imperial system was confusing the young – can I guess that you were taught weights and measures before the change over?
I don’t know the intricacies of feet and inches, lbs, ounces and tons, pints and gallons, but a millimetre is a tenth of a centimetre which is one hundredth of a metre (everyone ignores decimetres…) which is a thousandth of a kilometre, etc, with weights and volume being just as simple – it is all logical.
Can you honestly say that the younger Imperial system (it dates from 1824, when the various different weights and measurements were at last unified; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weights_and_Measures_Act) is logical? I mean, 12 inches to the foot, 3 feet to the yard, 5280 feet to the mile, 14 lbs to the stone, 2240 lbs to the ton – it is seriously all over the place and definitely not logical. Take the gallon:
In 1824, the various different gallons in use in the British Empire were replaced by the imperial gallon, a unit close in volume to the ale gallon. It was originally defined as the volume of 10 pounds (4.5 kg) of distilled water weighed in air with brass weights with the barometer standing at 30 inches of mercury (102 kPa) at a temperature of 62 °F (17 °C). In 1963, the gallon was redefined as the volume of 10 pounds of distilled water of density 0.998859 g/mL weighed in air of density 0.001217 g/mL against weights of density 8.136 g/mL, which works out to 4.546096 L or 277.4198 cu in. The Weights and Measures Act of 1985 switched to a gallon of exactly 4.54609 L (approximately 277.4194 cu in).
Does that make any sense to you, really?
Do you remember the kids TV show Blue Peter? It is still going, you know… I can remember the uproar when they changed from giving both Imperial measurements and metric at the same time to…not giving Imperial. The media went bonkers, yet children were not being taught anything but metric and even OAP viewers (interested in the recipes; remember the days when Blue Peter did cookery rather than just wicked stuff?) said that it was silly to show both and metric was easier to understand.
There is still confusion – miles per hour or kilometres per hour, anyone? How about kilometres rather than miles on signposts?
snafuukip never mentions all the British citizens that chose to live and work in and around Europe, correct me if I’m wrong, but won’t leaving the EU screw them over…?
What is general avoided is mention that a fair proportion of their donor’s actually live in Europe by choice.
If they were so pro-Britain, anti Europe, you’d think they would, wouldn’t you…?
snafuHow about HMS Victoria?
Vice-Admiral Sir George Tryon, a well regarded sailor but also a strict disciplinarian who believed that the best way of keeping his crews taut and efficient was by continuous exercises, ordered a manoeuvre which had two lines of RN warships go through a 180 degree turn toward each other, so that they would fall into a single line. Officers knew that the distance was not enough to maintain safe separation but did not say anything – with the result that HMS Victoria was rammed by HMS Camperdown. The vessels separated, but before all the hatches were secured – it was a hot day so all had been open. With two great turrets, half a metre of armour and the engines still running the Victoria powered to the bottom.
In 2004 it was annouced that HMS Victoria had be discovered – it was nose first impaled in the seabed, like a dart!
The bedrock of the seabed was hidden by 40-50 metres of soft mud; it was suspected that the first 30 metres of the 103 metre long Victoria had crumpled on impact so only about the rear third of the vessel was sticking up like a tombstone.
The report I’ve seen says that there was only one other known vessel of this stature that was an ‘upright’ wreck, in the Philipphines, but that had collapsed.
snafuShip left, dumped in Cornwall.
Costs mount for stricken cargo ship MV Sea Breeze
A ship which started sinking off the coast of Cornwall is costing UK taxpayers hundreds of pounds a day in mooring fees.
The six crew of the MV Sea Breeze were rescued when it began taking in water near the Lizard on 9 March.
But the future of the 87m (285ft) ship is uncertain and the Department for Transport is paying more than £200 a day to moor it in the River Fal.
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‘Complex’ salvage
The ship was towed to St Austell Bay for repairs, and then the Port of Fowey was directed by the UK Government’s marine casualty authority to take her in before she was moved to the Fal, a deep water area for mooring large ships.
Truro harbourmaster Capt Mark Killingback said: “At the moment she’s being looked after by the Department for Transport and the Maritime and Coastguard Agency (MCA).
“It’s a matter for maritime lawyers to resolve any claims against the vessel.”
The ship is registered in Barbados, had a mainly Russian crew and is operated by Ukraine-based company, KDM Shipping, which was unavailable for comment.
Salvage company Keynvor MorLift claims it is owed about £200,000 in fees.
Spokesman Diccon Rogers said: “Salvage is often complex. There are several interests and legal parties on an international basis so getting paid can be interesting.”
The MCA said: “Negotiations about the future of the vessel are ongoing between the MCA, the salvors, Port of Truro, the operator and their insurers.
“The vessel is securely moored in the River Fal, at Truro, and is being monitored.”
The Department for Transport was unavailable for immediate comment.
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